This is not right!!!!!

[Knothead]

Don't get me wrong, I hate lying and hate it when people lie. But the fact is, many people, when confronted with the necessity of creating an expensive truth, or a cheap lie, slither out the easy way.

I'm beginning to think that the only reason Korporate America EVER tells the truth is because of fear of legal retaliation.

That said, ....btw, let's sue Union Carbide, as well. Just on principle. They had nothing to do with this, I'm sure, but they DO have very deep pockets, and they settle out of court at the drop of a hat.

That is to say, I STILL think it's frivolous. **covers head**

[Mortis]

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That said, ....btw, let's sue Union Carbide, as well. Just on principle. They had nothing to do with this, I'm sure, but they DO have very deep pockets, and they settle out of court at the drop of a hat.

LOL! I'm in.

My previous statements were based on my ethical judgement of "Liable Civil Lawsuits." If some one breaks into my house and is caught, they suffer Punitive legal recourse. I am not commenting on whether McD's actually is responsible for wrong doing or not- I dont have enough info. What I am commenting on is the action of Monetary Lawsuits. McDonalds paying Monies in a Civil Suit is not the same thing as being charged in a Criminal Court. I see the former as "Opportunities" to cash in. Anyone who enters a Suit thinking that the outcome is going to be anything other than a PayCheck is naive. Yes, its the best that exists right now and Money is currently the only JudicialMeans to hold Corporations accountable when it comes to Civic Responsibily/Accountability (not talking about criminal actions)- but it is Royally messed up. Somewhere along the way the public perspective/Motive shifted from it being a means to have "Justice/accountability" for personal wrongdoing done against them to an opportunity for dollar signs. Yea, maybe I am being cynical and presenting a gross generalization. But I dont think it works and I doubt intentions/motives as soon as someone agrees to a number ($) that will "make them feel better." In my opinion, it has become such a standard of warped values for society that actual projected line items are determined in fiscal budgets. I dont know, I just think it is whacked. Further, it is consistent with our material society of inhabitants that celebrate Consumer Bliss and MediaMadness. I dont have a better solution, but believe the current one shifts focuses/values from accountability to personal gain. Does it work? In a messed up way- Yea.

When I said Ludicrous in my previous post, I was commenting on my perspectives explained above.

No offense meant to anyone .

Mortis

EDIT: SlipperySlope Time for me : I do think there is valid occassion for Civil/Monetary Lawsuits... but the line is fine and often double edged.

[Epidemic]

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By the way, the plaintiffs won, they PROVED to a jury (12 people) that McD was wrong. If 12 ppl can agree that a corp did wrong then it is NOT "rediculous" to accept the fact that McD did wrong.
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Getting twelve people to agree to give moneys out is not all that difficult in the latigous society. For the most part all you have to prove is that someone's feeling were hurt. Also people believe guilt of a company no matter what. As is evidence by this thread. The conspiracy theories are running wild. Look at what they did to punish the hindus.

Another thing that was posted was look at that mean company only paying Minimum wage... First off that is the store owners and managers that decide that not the corporation. Secondly if all you can do in life is punch keys on a register should I pay you 20$ an hour.

[Gomer]

Epidemic... they were not required by the FDA to include beef extract in the list of ingredients. However, they were marketing the food with the vegetarian market in mind.

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The company began calling the products vegetarian after it began using vegetable oil to help reduce cholesterol in the early 1990s

That is what got them in trouble.

By the way, for all of you up in arms over this whole thing, the $$ went to charity.

[Epidemic]

Now I have respect for the case. That ment that they were really doing this for honor and their belief system.

[Mortis]

I also standard corrected with my pessimistic views concerning this situation:

Bulk of 10 Million to go here:

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McDonald's says it has created a Dietary Practice/Vegetarian Advisory Panel consisting of experts in consumer dietary practices that will advise McDonald's on relevant dietary restrictions and guidelines.

Modest personal settlements for time:

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Under the agreement, the 11 named plaintiffs will each receive $4,000, according to Bharti. The public can comment on the agreement until July 8, and Siebel is scheduled to make his final ruling on Aug. 22.

[Fingers]

Now wait a minute, if Hindus are so afraid of injesting bovine flesh... they should not be eating at a restaurant that prepares beef products. Workers will sometimes undoubtabley handle beef product and then grab a salad from the cooler, beef fat also sizzles when it gets hot so there a chance that some of these particles could end up in the french fries whether the fryer is filled with "100% pure vegtable oil" or not. If the content of their diet is that strict, then they need to be eating only food they prepare themselves from ingredients they grew or harvested themselves.

So what is the quantity of "beef" that can be injested without influencing their afterlife? 1milligram per day?, 1mg per week?, 1mg per lifetime? If the quanitity is indeed ZERO, then they shouldn't have been eating at McD's in the first place.

[Epidemic]

HMmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Why do people here have a problem with overlooked, overlooked, overlooked. How many people at mc d's are Hindu's on the R & D team I mean divout cow loving hindus.

McDonalds is not some mom and pop franchise. They are global and invest millions in market research. They do a huge business in India- but guess what- no beef is served. Since the day they opened. Only chicken/fish/vegetables. Oh, they didn't "overlook" anything.

Global companies first research any new markets before introducing their products. Pharmaceutical companies who do billions of dollars of business in India, for example, do not use animal derived gelatin in capsules.

Any idea how much legal scrutiny labels are subject to for any product? This just slipped through. They just got careless and got sued.

As simple as that.

[moon]

Anyone that eats at McDonalds deserves what they get.