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January 22nd, 2003, 10:00 PM #1
Drop night is FRIDAY! (aircraft assignment)
Friday night I get my aircraft assignment! I CAN'T WAIT!!! Our flight commander just got the results today. We turned in our dream-sheets in late November. We were told to list three choices, and we *may* get them. It is based on the needs of the USAF, so nothing is guaranteed. My 3 picks were:[list=1][*]B-52 bomber (aka BUFF) - Shreveport, LA or Minot, ND[*]C-130 (slick C-130) cargo plane- any European base (Germany and England)[*]C-130 (slick C-130) cargo plane- any Japanese base[/list=1]My flight commander said we "should be pleased" by our assignments, so that is good news. Only one other person in our class put in for the B-52 and no one else put in for overseas slick C-130s. I chose the B-52, which is only stationed at two horribly located bases, for the home-life (fly and return home often) and the mission (kill bad guys and break things). I chose the slicks for the mission (lots of fun low-level flying) and the location (who can beat Europe or Japan?!?). We'll see. I'll let y'all know what I get and post some pics, maybe.
This is what we have been waiting for since I started in the USAF in Nov of 2001! The suspense and the fact that my commander actually KNOWS already are killing me!
The available aircraft for me are:
AC-130 Gunships
HC-130
MC-130
EC-130
C-130 (slick or trash-hauler
)
KC-135 (rarely assigned)
RC-135
B-52
J-Star
AWACS
C-5 (very rarely assigned)
While F-15E's and B-1's are available for navigators (actually called WSOs), in choosing to come to Randolph for training instead of Pensacola, I excluded myself from those two aircraft. Likewise, if I'd gone to Pensacola, I'd only be able to get the F-15E, B-1 or AC-130.
WOOHOO!
Dave
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January 22nd, 2003, 10:03 PM #2mickwishGuest
Have no idea what any of that means, Dave
, but good luck in whatever it is for Friday! 
Cheers
Mick
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January 22nd, 2003, 10:11 PM #3
Dave,
Hope you get what you want. Stay away from JSTARS/AWACS, cool mission, but Navs usually don't like flying in circles.
-RADAR
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January 22nd, 2003, 10:17 PM #4
Sorry, those are US Air Force aircraft. I am a navigator (trainee). Most of the older aircraft in the USAF arsenal use human navigators instead of computers and GPS since humans cannot be jammed and are more reliable and the cost to "upgrade" is prohibitive. The pilot flies the plane, the navigator tells the pilot where to fly, how to fly, looks for threats, drops bombs and cargo, and plans the missions. (No offense to any pilots out there, but we often call them bus-drivers since the nav's do a vast amount of the work in getting the aircraft to the desired place on time to perform its mission.) I am told Friday what aircraft I am to be assigned to.
Ugh, those are my last choices. If I get those, I will try and cross-train into something else very quickly!Originally posted by RADAR1797
Dave,
Hope you get what you want. Stay away from JSTARS/AWACS, cool mission, but Navs usually don't like flying in circles.
-RADAR
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January 22nd, 2003, 10:43 PM #5
Hope you get the mission you want Dave. Sounds like a lot of fun.
The difficulty is to try and teach the multitude that something can be true and untrue at the same time. -- Arthur Schopenhauer
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January 22nd, 2003, 10:54 PM #6
What? No C-17 Globemaster II?? Guess you're gonna have to suction-cup the antenna for your personal GPS to the windscreen on those antiques. For shame, no B1-B slot either
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January 22nd, 2003, 11:06 PM #7Ultimate Member
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Sure hope you get the post you want! Good luck!
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January 22nd, 2003, 11:11 PM #8
Good luck Dave!
"Sometimes life is just what we make it."
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January 22nd, 2003, 11:27 PM #9
Well, the C-17 doesn't have a Nav position or even a place to put one.
They want one for certain missions, like the C-5 has. Nothing has come of it yet, though.
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January 23rd, 2003, 12:13 AM #10WHOOO!C-130 (slick C-130) cargo plane- any European base (Germany and England)--Davelaeu
Folks, this is an airplane weighing something like 100,000 pounds, with a wingspan of about 132 feet! 
Calling this an 'airplane' is like calling a T-Rex a lizard!
Good luck with this, Dave!
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January 23rd, 2003, 01:13 AM #11Me tooHave no idea what any of that means, Dave, but good luck in whatever it is for Friday!
. Definately wish you the Best!!!
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January 23rd, 2003, 01:49 AM #12
Let me be the first to Welcome you to Louisiana, if ya get ur first choice!!!!!
Best wishes to you Daveleau!!!! Be Safe!!!!
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January 23rd, 2003, 04:16 AM #13Not Really a Member
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ok so you want a B52 to blow things up and kill the bad guy... why the C130?
Good luck
What.. no B2?
Helicopters don't fly; they vibrate so much and make so much noise that the earth rejects them.
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January 23rd, 2003, 05:40 AM #14Ultimate Member
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If you chose the BUFF, you may be stationed in the UK sooner than anticipated

Good luck Dave
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January 23rd, 2003, 09:01 AM #15shahaniGuest
Best of luck for getting your first choice and for all missions you will undertake.
Does sound exciting.
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January 23rd, 2003, 09:46 AM #16
Vass:
Well, I chose the slick C-130 for the amount of travel. I'd get to see the whole world.
As for the B-2 Spirit, unfortunately they do not use a navigator.
U-96:
I will probably spend some time over in the UK (sweet!), but my permanent stations are very limited. It is definitely the mission that drew me to the BUFF, not the location.
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January 23rd, 2003, 10:11 AM #17
Ooooooh - how exciting!
Congrats, Dave and I hope you get the one you want!
Really looking forward to seeing some great pics and will be looking forward to the decision - tomorrow! w00t!
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January 23rd, 2003, 11:28 AM #18
I would have picked #2, #2, and #2.
You really wanna be in Shreveport in Summer or Minot in Winter ?
Hey, What's the number of a Stealth Bomber ? B-2 ?
CALIFORNIA-TYPE DOOOOOOG
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January 23rd, 2003, 12:15 PM #19Not Really a Member
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I was wondering about the B2 (yes DOoooG B2 is stealth
) didnt' seem to have a whole hell of a lot of room in there for much 
What does 'slick' denote for the C130?
<--- Air force illiterate
OMG today is thursday?!?
Did I sleep through a day!?
hmm what happened to wednesday
Helicopters don't fly; they vibrate so much and make so much noise that the earth rejects them.
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January 23rd, 2003, 02:27 PM #20Me Three!Originally posted by mickwish
Have no idea what any of that means, Dave
, but good luck in whatever it is for Friday! 
Cheers
Mick
Good Luck!
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