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Old July 23rd, 2003, 11:48 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Free speech and military morale

An interesting article in Stars and Stripes.
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 12:43 PM     #2 (permalink)
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Well, here's another view on the subject of Troop Morale in the Middle East. A letter from one of the guys in the middle of it...

It's long, and a little rough, and may be hard for some to read; (he makes references to "rag-heads", this guy is clearly not a fan of Middle Eastern culture.) but it DOES offer an insight into what the guys are thinking.

To me, it appears that his major gripe is not troop morale (it's good) but the way their efforts are being portrayed by the media...(what else is new) Anyway, submitted as an interesting read:
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Original message, which came from e-mail thread out of SOCOM (spec. ops command) in Tampa, it is from Army spec. ops

Subject: FW: Message From Iraq

It Ain't Necessarily So.
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war. Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over about the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen.
2) It isn't any worse than expected;
3) Things are getting better each day, and
4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping.

My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by them same RolandHeadly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after
the worthless pieces of fecal matter. [OD NOTE: VERY understated!]

I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail forthe press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us.

Some do. But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds fromthe 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis.

A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since. How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada.

The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers.

They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios.

They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal.

They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers

The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year.

Safe water is more available.

Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.

The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan.
There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities.
Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants.
Mosul is a city of 2 million.
Kirkuk has 1 million.
How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority.

I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May. The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris).

The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid.

A mosque in that s***hole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile.

The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl. He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation.

Guess what played on the B******t Broadcasting System that evening? Did the Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the Palestinian.

Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo". No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad.

We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows.

Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon. We must continue to get public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month.

It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have some other looney running the place again.

This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of goat-herders who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much less a major country).

Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of Jerusalem.

Enough of that cheery speculation.

The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed Chief Army and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's tops and will be getting his second star. To me it means that SpOps will be more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll have a shot at a bird-level combat command. The old man asked me to come to MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my current gig. As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working with the BEST damn soldiers in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks a chance at trying freedom for a change. They may learn to like it and then my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to destroy the planet.

My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to Tampa, brief the old man, then head to San Rafael and see my two sweethearts. I'd like to visit my parents in Toronto and my brother in London, before taking on a trip across the country. Just like any other family. It will charge my batteries before I end up back in some other *stuff* ... er, interesting and challenging location. I hope to see most of you and ask for some advice, not support. I know I've had that all along. Thanks.

Now about that Maker's Mark.
God Bless America
Mark.


Hey Knot .. one word slipped from you ...
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 12:59 PM     #3 (permalink)
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Oddly enough, 427Windsorman has already posted the same quote in this thread. Must be making the rounds. Is it authentic, or another urban (or desert) legend?
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 01:12 PM     #4 (permalink)
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Huh! I musta missed it!

But the way it's written, it has the ring of authenticity to it.

The attitude, for one. During the Vietnam era, I had friends who did come back, and they spoke that very same way. For better or worse, the percieved enemy is dismissed as less-than-human. It's war.

Also, the "SpOps-Spec4-pulled-a-section8" kind of talk; it takes months for a soldier stateside to go back to normal terminology.

So I think it's authentic. Whether I like it or not, I thought it worth the read.
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 01:29 PM     #5 (permalink)
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Authentic or not
it does address some truths.

Mosul and Fallujah and perhaps 2 or 3 other sites are where all the violence is happening. Interesting how the violence is just concentrated in 4 or 5 locations and the rest of the country is relatively free from such attacks.

And the media is reporting only negative and completely omitting the positive.
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 01:34 PM     #6 (permalink)
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another thing here. You nailed it Knothead with the dehumanizing the enemy thing. But If you look at his words his dehumanization is strictly targeted on the troublemakers not the populace. He does not appear to bear any ill will towards iraqis. Merely the out of town folks from syria and Iran as well as fedayeen.
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Old July 23rd, 2003, 01:55 PM     #7 (permalink)
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As for the article....that's the way it is. We might talk amongst ourselves as to how we feel about our leadership, but going on record criticizing them is a big no-no, and for good reason. How would you all feel about me, and in a larger sense the US military that I (like it or not) represent, if I were on here spouting off about what our leadership is doing? We take orders and don't cast judgement on them (at least publcly).....that's part of the job.

As for the "email" posted here.....smells mighty fishy to me. First, it's damn long-winded to be from a guy who's supposedly in Iraq. Second, it's a bit overly "politicized"...not that soldiers aren't political, but seems to me that this usually the cornerstone of many, many of these types of fake messages that get passed around the internet. Third, he divulges a lot more military information than a person of his apparent intelligece would likely do. Generally speaking, talking about the work you're doing, esp. in a deployed location is a bigtime no-no. But, who knows, I could be mistaken.
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I don’t think anyone denies that the US soldiers on the ground are human beings most of whom who bear no hatred and wish no harm to the Iraqi people, while trying to be good at their jobs.

I cannot say the same of your politicians though, I’m sorry.
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Why do you assume that our politicians hold ill will for the iraqi people?

It would appear as if the current policy for iraq is to rebuild infrastructure (Which has not been updated since the 60's at its peak was 33% below demand in 2000) To get hospitals working(which had a budget of 3 million bucks in 2000), Upgrade water treatment and to get a self ruling government police and military back in place. Hell even the oil dealing have their books open for all to see. There is no talk of reparations to the US for the war effort.

Personally I defy anyone to indicate where our governent is displaying ill will for the iraqi people or rape their resources.
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I agree, we've never turned our backs on the smoking ruins of a catastophic war.
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