Why should we

korgul · December 30th, 2001, 06:38 PM

Why is it that we have to stand when a judge enters a courtroom?

Do we have to stand if he enters our house also?

What happens if we decide that we do not want to stand when he / she enters?

I was discussing this with my wife today and feel that we should not have to stand. I think that this is telling the judge that he is better then everyone else in the room. Hey I put my pants on the same way that they do.

korgul

RADAR1797 · December 30th, 2001, 06:41 PM

We all put our pants on the same way. But have you earned a Juris Docterate and been elected/appointed as a judiciary? We show respect to congressmen, the President, cabinet officers, etc... why not judges? They are only upholding the third pillar of our government.

-RADAR

ryogenetic · December 30th, 2001, 06:49 PM

With the moral decay of the US you wish to attack one of the few remaining courtseys that remains? I dont think that a judge is any better than anyone else but he/she has been placed in a position of looking out for the well being of an entire society(no small feat) Judges bring balance into society from dealing with small offenses that may just require some scare tactics to large problems that envolve murder, rape, and theft. Granted they may not always give you the verdict you wish but on a whole it is bettering the society......

ryogenetic · December 30th, 2001, 06:50 PM

Choice go get some RADAR

NeoStarO1 · December 30th, 2001, 06:53 PM

To stand up before a judge when he enters the room is a sign of respect that we honor him as our judge to represent the consititution of the united states.

Same as we always stand when doing the pledge of allegence.

As for the question if we have to stand if a judge enters our homes. no we do not unless official court is being held in your home for some reason.

If you don't stand before a judge in a courtroom when he/she enters the courtroom, i doubt anything will happen with the exception of being veiw as a person who has disrespect for the law keepers. Provide you are not in a wheelchair, natural understanding goes to people whom are in wheelchairs thus they do not loose respect as a person in the courtroom if they don't stand.

NeoStar

korgul · December 30th, 2001, 07:19 PM

ryo it is not that I am attacking anybody, it is just that I feel that this is uncalled for. I should have the choice to stand if I want to.
I have to support all of the computer users in a company but do they stand when I enter the room. NO

Radar- I earned a degree in computers does that make me better than the next person - No. The judge earned a doctorate in some other field does that make him better than anyone else, not in my eyes.

Incase you are wondering no I am not going to court,just saw a commercial for a new show on TV and they said all rise for so and so.

korgul

RADAR1797 · December 30th, 2001, 07:26 PM

Korgul,

You missed my point totally. The degree is a matter of measure and a hurdle to go through. It is a qualification to be held in most states and the federal government before a person can be considered for appointment or election to a judgeship. If they are appointed or elected, they are either directly or indirectly chosen by the people;you know, you and me and everyone else in the jurisdiction. Their responsibility is to make fair and life altering decisions. Yours is not. The crux of my post was not what they earned, though it is an achievement, but their responsibility to uphold the judicial branch of our republic. If that does not deserve a little respect, I am not sure what does.

-RADAR

BTW I have a BS in Computer Science

griobhta · December 30th, 2001, 07:34 PM

It is not the person that is the Judge that you stand for it is the office that he represents. There is a difference. You can have different levels of respect for an office and the person that holds it. Sometimes you put up with a person out of respect for the office and other times you may go against the person out of respect for the office. It is the same thing as the old 'The King is dead long live the King'.

I agree that a judge, or any other offical, is not necessarily better than anybody else. The path to any office may not always be a very noble one. However the office and what it is supposed to represent is important.

You may have a point that you should have the choice. Civil disobedience and all that. The right of a citizen to oppose the state.

griobhta

markuy06 · December 30th, 2001, 07:40 PM

I feel that if you earn respect that you should be given respect and it is shown in different ways. the police are our protectors and uphold the law do we stand for them when they walk in the room? there are ceo's and company presidents that we stand up for and they do not uphold the constatuion.
I really don't think it is just about respect. there are things you just do. like shaking hands with the right. and saying thank you after receiving a gift or service.
including Feeling sorry for the less fortunate, proud of the winning team, pleased to have great friends.
well i said enough to get you thinking.

Thanx for listening.

markuy

ryogenetic · December 30th, 2001, 07:41 PM

RADAR well stated.

As to standing when a judge enters I can understand that if you so wished not to stand it should be your choice. If for instance you were Nelson Mandella you might hold contempt for any who would judge you. even when the govt. that presides is racist but also keep in mind that the american legal system has become more of a show. and by standing you show yourself in a good light.