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Old November 27th, 2003, 02:29 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Does Bush have "big ones" or what?

Way to go President Bush!!

Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Troops in Baghdad

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Old November 27th, 2003, 02:32 PM     #2 (permalink)
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Dude does have a pair, lol.

I think he is doing a pretty good job considering some of the stuff he's been handed...no offense but I am glad Gore didnt have to handle 911...he whined so bad about the election id hate to see him try to manufacture a backbone to handle some real issues.

Oops, there I go again posting my opinion...shame shame. (lol)

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Old November 27th, 2003, 02:38 PM     #3 (permalink)
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Post pulled. Not the day to be doing this.

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Old November 27th, 2003, 02:42 PM     #4 (permalink)
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Time comes when you've got to put the moral of our troops ahead of dereliction of duty though. No one, especially not the soldiers, wants to believe that they're there for no good reason. Seeing your commander and chief in person has got to be a pretty good moral booster. Think about the aircraft carrier landing. Tell me that every man on that boat wasn't proud as hell? Happy soldiers are better soldiers.
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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:15 PM     #5 (permalink)
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That's the second time in his term he's taken unnecessary and foolish risks just for a good photo op.

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A True Leader~LEADS !!!! Anyone can sit in the office and read polls to see what is "popular" to do
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BobViper, Your enthusiasm can be shared without the large font. The last 4 posts of yours I've read in the last couple weeks read like this one, and people are starting to complain. That tells me it bothers them as much as it does me.
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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:22 PM     #6 (permalink)
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Yup, it takes a leader to go against the grain and take the stupidist course possible. Don't mistake leadership for foolhardedness.




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November 27, 2003

The hand shakes but the mind does not. Nor does the voice waver. Always in his jacket pocket is a copy of the Constitution of the United States, which he loves.

And Oct. 17, Robert C. Byrd, 86, United States senator from West Virginia, rose in the Senate and read a speech, with sentences shorter than his usual because his thoughts were so biting. He had searched his heart and the skies above for words that would scald now, and be a legacy for all to follow.

You will not have to tell your grandchildren of the heights to which Robert Byrd took us on that day. They will be able to read his speech in their classrooms and libraries. For his are the words of his time that will last.

The speech is printed here as a gift to readers.

Byrd spoke at a time when we have a president who has a singular ineptitude with the English language.

Bush is in the nation’s capital and he uses the loutish language of a high school locker room:

“Bring ‘em on.”

And now at a time when he is so needed, here is Robert C. Byrd’s “The Emperor Has No Clothes.”

He started with Hans Christian Andersen’s 1837 story of an emperor who was so enamored of his appearance and his clothing that he had a different suit for every hour of the day. Two rogues came into town and convinced the emperor that they could weave magical cloth that was visible only to those completely pure in mind and spirit. The rogues feigned work on empty looms.

Ministers exhorted the beauty of the cloth on the looms even though they could see nothing. The emperor saw nothing, but he went through the motion of carefully putting on these wonderful new garments. His people cheered. They didn’t want to be seen as less than pure of heart. The bubble burst when an innocent child exclaimed that the emperor had no clothes.

Now Sen. Robert S. Byrd announced to the Senate:

“The tale seems to me very like the way this nation was led to war. ... We were told that we were threatened by weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but they have not been seen.

“We were told that the throngs of Iraqis would welcome our troops with flowers, but no throngs or flowers appeared.

“We were led to believe that Saddam Hussein was connected to the attack on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, but no evidence has ever been produced.

“We were told in 16 words that Saddam Hussein tried to buy ‘yellow cake’ from Africa for production of nuclear weapons, but the story has turned into empty air.

“We were frightened with visions of mushroom clouds, but they turned out to be only vapors of the mind.

“We were told that major combat was over, but 101 Americans [as of Oct. 17] have died in combat since that proclamation from the deck of an aircraft carrier by our very own emperor in his new clothes.

“Our emperor says that we are not occupiers, yet we show no inclination to relinquish the country of Iraq to its people.

“Those who have dared to expose the nakedness of the administration’s policies in Iraq have been subjected to scorn. Those who have noticed the elephant in the room - that is, the fact that this war was based on falsehoods - have had our patriotism questioned. Those who have spoken aloud the thought shared by hundreds of thousands of military families across this country, that our troops should return quickly and safely from the dangers half a world away, have been accused of cowardice. We have then seen the untruths, the dissembling, the fabrication, the misleading inferences surrounding this rush to war in Iraq wrapped quickly in the flag.

“The right to ask questions, debate, and dissent is under attack. The drums of war are beaten ever louder in an attempt to drown out those who speak of our predicament in stark terms.

“Even in the Senate, our history and tradition of being the world’s greatest deliberative body is being snubbed. This huge spending bill has been rushed through this chamber in just one month. There were just three open hearings by the Senate Appropriations Committee on $87 billion, without a single outside witness called to challenge the administration’s line.

“Ambassador Bremer went so far as to refuse to return to the Appropriations Committee to answer additional questions because, and I quote: ‘I don’t have time. I’m completely booked, and I have to get back to Baghdad to my duties.’

“Despite this callous stiff-arm of the Senate and its duties to ask questions in order to represent the American people, few dared to voice their opposition to rushing this bill through these halls of Congress. Perhaps they were intimidated by the false claims that our troops are in immediate need of more funds.

“But the time has come for the sheep-like political correctness which has cowed members of this Senate to come to an end.

“The emperor has no clothes. This entire adventure in Iraq has been based on propaganda and manipulation. Eighty-seven billion dollars is too much to pay for the continuation of a war based on falsehoods.

“Taking the nation to war based on misleading rhetoric and hyped intelligence is a travesty and a tragedy. It is the most cynical of all cynical acts. It is dangerous to manipulate the truth. It is dangerous because once having lied, it is difficult to ever be believed again. Having misled the American people and stampeded them to war, this administration must now attempt to sustain a policy predicated on falsehoods. The President asks for billions from those same citizens who know that they were misled about the need to go to war. We misinformed and insulted our friends and allies, and now this administration is having more than a little trouble getting help from the international community. It is perilous to mislead.

“The single-minded obsession of this administration to now make sense of the chaos in Iraq, and the continuing propaganda which emanates from the White House painting Iraq as the geographical center of terrorism is distracting our attention from Afghanistan and the 60 other countries in the world where terrorists hide. It is sapping resources which could be used to make us safer from terrorists on our own shores. The body armor for our own citizens still has many, many chinks. Have we forgotten that the most horrific terror attacks in history occurred right here at home! Yet, this administration turns back money for homeland security, while the president pours billions into security for Iraq. I am powerless to understand or explain such a policy.

“I have tried mightily to improve this bill. I twice tried to separate the reconstruction money in this bill, so that those dollars could be considered separately from the military spending. I offered an amendment to force the administration to craft a plan to get other nations to assist the troops and formulate a plan to get the UN in, and the U.S. out, of Iraq. Twice I tried to rid the bill of expansive, flexible authorities that turn this $87 billion into a blank check. The American people should understand that we provide more foreign aid for Iraq in this bill, $20.3 billion, than we provide for the rest of the entire world! I attempted to remove from this bill billions in wasteful programs and divert those funds to better use. But, at every turn, my efforts were thwarted by the vapid argument that we must all support the requests of the commander in chief.

“I cannot stand by and continue to watch our grandchildren become increasingly burdened by the billions that fly out of the Treasury for a war and a policy based largely on propaganda and prevarication. We are borrowing $87 billion to finance this adventure in Iraq. The president is asking this Senate to pay for this war with increased debt, a debt that will have to be paid by our children and by those same troops that are currently fighting this war. I cannot support outlandish tax cuts that plunge our country into potentially disastrous debt while our troops are fighting and dying in a war that the White House chose to begin.

“I cannot support the continuation of a policy that unwisely ties down 150,000 American troops for the foreseeable future, with no end in sight.

“I cannot support a president who refuses to authorize the reasonable change in course that would bring traditional allies to our side in Iraq.

“I cannot support the politics of zeal and ‘might makes right’ that created the new American arrogance and unilateralism which passes for foreign policy in this administration.

“I cannot support this foolish manifestation of the dangerous and destabilizing doctrine of pre-emption that changes the image of America into that of a reckless bully.

“The emperor has no clothes. And our former allies around the world were the first to loudly observe it.

“I shall vote against this bill because I cannot support a policy based on prevarication. I cannot support doling out 87 billion of our hard-earned tax dollars when I have so many doubts about the wisdom of its use.

“I began my remarks with a fairy tale. I shall close my remarks with a horror story, in the form of a quote from the book ‘Nuremberg Diaries,’ written by G.M. Gilbert, in which the author interviews Hermann Goering.

“‘We got around to the subject of war again, and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

“‘... But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.

“‘There is one difference,’ I pointed out. ‘In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States, only Congress can declare wars.’

“‘Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.’”
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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:22 PM     #7 (permalink)
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I have to agree Bob, the modern way is to be a sniveling whiney type that tries to please everyone..but you are correct..thats not a LEADER.

A leader leads. A true leader is a magnet for vehement criticism..but if you think about it, vehement criticism is a form of respect, lol....cuz if they thought the dude was loony or inept, they would just be amused, not threatened.

I remember lonely thanksgivings as I was serving my country in the USAF, stationed overseas for several years, didnt see America for a 22 month stretch at one period...it would have been cool to have a Presidential visit!


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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:24 PM     #8 (permalink)
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If he had "big ones" as questioned above, he'd go to a funeral or two.
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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:26 PM     #9 (permalink)
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Old November 27th, 2003, 03:30 PM     #10 (permalink)
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MTAtech, you need to learn to post a Reader's Digest condensed version of whatever it is you cut and paste all the time. If it doesn't fit on one screen I rarely read it.
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