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    Onii-san Bizkitkid2001's Avatar
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    ASL sentence GLOSS help

    I need some help with GLOSSING these sentences into American Sign. Any help would be appreciated

    'Cause Christmas ain't the time for breaking each other's heart
    GLOSS: lol, none so far

    And thats the way it's got to be
    GLOSS: ALWAYS SAME TRUE (this is what I cam up with but am not 100% sure)


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    BizKit,

    Not sure what you mean by "glossing" Are you wanting the ASL grammer santax for the english sentense?
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    NeoStar I'm not familiar with the effects of santax but I heard syntax might help

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    Title: WRITING IN AN UNWRITTEN LANGUAGE
    Subject: American Sign Language 1 (college) 15 weeks Class: SPA 2612 Duration: 120 minutes

    Purpose
    Glossing, which is nothing more than preparing a written transcript of a signed message, will enable learners with a tool they can use to help them in three specific areas. First, glossing will enable students to note the syntactical and semantic differences between ASL & English grammar structure. Second, having a common terminology and frame of reference will enable the students to discuss the linguistics of ASL productively with their peers and the instructor. Third, comparing their initial glosses with their performance and then with their self-assessment of the performance will enable students to assess their own performance skills in an objective manner.

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    Re: ASL sentence GLOSS help

    Oh well now that nunyadam has explained "glossing" I can more or less answer your question. Never heard of it called glossing. ASL grammer is diffucult to write. Just remember that ASL Grammer is almost exactly backwards of the English Spoken language.

    To easlily explain the two major differences in the two languages think of it this way.

    Take a trianagle and write it upside down with the point towards the ground. This represents the english spoken language. People tend to talk and then finally give you the point.

    Now take the same triangle and place the tip to the sky. This represents the ASL Lanangue. Point is ALWAYS stated first.

    There is reason for this there are several signs that can mean more than one thing. So its important to always have subject first. If time is involved time is usally stated first then subject and then you say whatever you want.

    Also remember that the true ASL language does not use "To be form of verbs"

    so for your two questions you have:


    Originally posted by Bizkitkid2001
    'Cause Christmas ain't the time for breaking each other's heart
    Your subject in here is "not breaking each others heart" Your time frame is christmas.

    So to write this in ASL grammer santax would be:

    Christmas time, break heart not good time finish.

    Originally posted by Bizkitkid2001
    And thats the way it's got to be
    GLOSS: ALWAYS SAME TRUE (this is what I cam up with but am not 100% sure)
    Thanks,
    -Biz
    Always same true, in response to the first sentense can be used.


    Biz, are you taking a signing class?

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    Yes, i am in ASL level 1.

    Well I ended up making "'Cause Christmas ain't the time for breaking each other's heart" a retorical question.

    GLOSS: CHRISTMAS HURT FEELINGS GOOD? NO.

    Or somthing to that extent. I was doing a christmas song for my ASL semester exam and that was a sentence in the song.

    BTW, i got a 90 on the song
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    can someone help me gloss a song into asl form?

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    Exclamation hello I am taking an ASL 1 class and I am screwed!!

    I need the following conversation to be translated with ASL syntax ASAP. Can anyone help?? I have royally screwed myself because i need this by tomorrow??

    M: I went Christmas shopping the yesterday and got a red jacket.
    L: WOW, itís only the beginning of the Holiday season!
    M: I wanted to start early so I didnít have to hassle with the crowds.
    L: I had no idea you didnít like crowds you seem very social.
    M: I only like to be social with my friends and my family.
    L: Did you finish your Christmas shopping or do you have to purchase more gifts?
    M: I want buy a blue sweater for my brother.
    L: Thatís a good idea because his favorite color is blue.
    M: I need to get started on my Christmas shopping but I need to get paid first.
    L: I want to buy my wife a brand new car this year.
    M: WOW, she is going to be really excited to see a new car!
    L: She better be because it is going to cost me a lot of money!
    M: Are you going to be staying home for the holidays or are you going to your in-laws?
    L: I think we are planning to stay home because my father is sick.
    M: Iím sorry to hear that, but I am sure he will be feeling better in no time.
    L: Are you celebrating Christmas with your wifeís family this year?
    M: We are trying to get hers and my family together in one house, but itís hard.
    L: Wow, that is going to be a lot of people in one house!
    M: Itís what we decided to do so that we could have everyone in one place for the Holidays.
    L: Good luck with that, because if it were me I would go crazy with all those people!

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    Exclamation y'all are uneducated.

    okay. rule #1: learn a thing or two about ASL before you start posting. rule#2: gloss is not a direct translation from an English sentence to ASL written approximations. Read English sentence, contemplate, interpret, actuallyuse your hands, gloss.

    Your quote about Christmas, if I recall: 'cause chritmas ain't no time for breaking hearts.

    this is in English. clearly. which means, there is no objectively correct way to sign it. my interpretation in laymen's gloss would be read like: Christmas, time for us heartbreak? no. glossing would read somehing like this: _t_CHRISTMAS, TIME FOR THE-TWO-OF-US HEARTACHE/BROKEN HEART_q_? NO_n_.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001 View Post
    I need some help with GLOSSING these sentences into American Sign. Any help would be appreciated

    'Cause Christmas ain't the time for breaking each other's heart
    GLOSS: lol, none so far

    And thats the way it's got to be
    GLOSS: ALWAYS SAME TRUE (this is what I cam up with but am not 100% sure)


    Thanks,
    -Biz

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