View Poll Results: Have you switched from MS to *unix?

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    short answer: yes... and don't forget to include my Mac mini - OS-X rocks too!

    long answer follows:






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    Is that necessary ?
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    LMAO CMonster

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    Quote Originally Posted by athlonxpguy
    Might not be the best out there, but sure is the easiest.
    I would say Mac OS is way more user-friendly than windows.

    hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceSquad
    I would say Mac OS is way more user-friendly than windows.

    hands down.

    Yeah, but can you play BF2 on it
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    Yes. Need more be said?

    Great post CMonster

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    win-free for several years now at home, work is a different issue

    there's been more than one monday where I've tried to middle-click to paste...

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    at home 2 PC's
    main PC has dual boot Ubuntu/XP
    second PC has dual boot kUbuntu/XP
    (i prefer gnome)

    at work (unfortunatly i work for nokia and all of the nokia software is 2000/XP) otherwise i would have Ubuntu there as well.

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    We're actually moving away from unix based systems. It is felt that there is more support and integration between server applications in the MS products.
    Im against picketing, but I dont know how to show it.

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    Might not be the best out there, but sure is the easiest. Also, nothing in the *nix world can compare to Active Directory. Only eDirectory from Novell is in the same league.
    Guess you've never used Opendirectory served an Xserve G5 before then (and connected to OS X clients). We use both AD and OD where I work to administer our Windows and Mac clients respectively. Overall they're about the same, but of course there are certain areas where one is better than the other. In general I would say that administration is significantly better in OS X server than it is in windows, but at the same time windows has more control (although not as much as you might think). Check out more OD info here and here.

    We're actually moving away from unix based systems. It is felt that there is more support and integration between server applications in the MS products.
    With the exception of OS X, I would agree most of the time. There are times though that this isn't true...whenever something doesn't work like it's supposed to, it can take a lot more work than it should to fix. For example: we've been trying to migrate our exchange server from one machine to a newer one since thursday, but there are some issues we haven't solved yet (one of the services isn't starting cause of some odd network issues).

    At home my desktop is windows only cause of gaming, limited hard drive space, and most of the applications I need for school are windows only. My laptop is dual-boot windows and slackware, but I haven't booted windows in a while. I've got another slackware only desktop machine that i use for serving and just screwing around on.

    At work we've got 5 servers: one Xserve G5 running OS X, one x86 running Solaris, and 3 x86s running windows 2003. On my workstation I dual boot windows and slackware. Our client network as a whole mostly consists of windows machines (maybe 150), and then we've got maybe 20 Macs, a few sun machines, and I think we've got an old SGI workstation somewhere.
    Last edited by originel; November 20th, 2005 at 01:32 PM.

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    Nope, haven't switched. No need to. I even have a stack of Ubuntu CDs stuffed in a box around here somewhere.

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    I tried Mandrake but just couldn't get that interested. Many reasons.
    lack of easily available documentation
    lack of user friendliness
    lack of coordination between programs
    strange names on programs, commands etc [not very intuitive]
    extremely difficult to administer, often falls back to command line
    Linux may get there some day but not yet.
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    Haven't tried any Unix/Linux yet, but if I get my hands on a spare computer, I'll probably experiment with it. I'm intrigued to see how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elroy
    Linux may get there some day but not yet.
    Its there. Ubuntu.
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    "lack of easily available documentation"
    yeah - typing man can be cumbersome and out of reach...

    Oh and there is the 20-something megs of documentation you can opt for during install but then again... that's just too darn difficut to figure out

    (image from Drake 9.2 still running flawless from the day installed)

    There are hundreds of topics covered in depth in the documentation that accompanies nearly every Linux distribution and even more readily available online.
    Last edited by CMonster; November 20th, 2005 at 05:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elroy
    extremely difficult to administer, often falls back to command line
    The command line is what makes *nix systems so great. The command line interface in windows sucks by comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by originel
    Guess you've never used Opendirectory served an Xserve G5 before then (and connected to OS X clients).
    Show me GPO assigning
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    Show me GPO assigning
    Ok. They're not called group policy objects (that's a microsoft term). But you can define whatever preferences adn startup scripts you want by group and assign that group (along with other groups) to any user OR machine. Keep in mind that Active Directory is based on LDAP, as is open directory. Aside from some areas where Microsoft didn't follow the specs, Opendirectory and Active directory are the same. In fact, in many of my websites with AD integration, I use Opendirectory PHP libraries to interact with AD.

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    dual booting between ubuntu and win xp pro. usually use xp due to gaming and other apps

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    Quote Originally Posted by originel
    Ok. They're not called group policy objects (that's a microsoft term). But you can define whatever preferences adn startup scripts you want by group and assign that group (along with other groups) to any user OR machine. Keep in mind that Active Directory is based on LDAP, as is open directory. Aside from some areas where Microsoft didn't follow the specs, Opendirectory and Active directory are the same. In fact, in many of my websites with AD integration, I use Opendirectory PHP libraries to interact with AD.
    And Opendirectory is OpenLDAP. Which is open source, and still in its infancy compared to eDirectory or AD.
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