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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:27 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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using dsl linux

I downloaded dsl last night just to get a look at what linux is like, and now I'm at a loss as to how anything is done.

I have windows booted right now cause I can't figure out how to setup a dialup connection on linux.

I would also like to know to get into my hard drive to.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:50 AM     #2 (permalink)
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I warned you.

I don't want to try DSL, but if I recall it does come with Dillo correct? If not I know Firefox was developing a browser at one time? Getting Firefox to run may be VERY time consuming. Dillo is OLD and barely updated and you will have problems with certain web pages.

Your CURSE is that you are stuck on dial up and surfing for information is painstakingly slow and probably why you did not download knoppix to begin with?

Here is the only option I quickly found:

Links@Sourceforge.net

By any account you are into a whole sub culture now and answers to your technical concerns of linux will probably be more expertly answered here:

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It came with firefox.

I downloaded dsl to see what linux was like. I do have a copy of ubuntu coming to me.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 08:08 PM     #4 (permalink)
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linux's strong point is its command console based usage... its one of the reasons I'm turned away from many versions, the core basic usage is usually as easy to use as Windows, but many times "power" using needs to use the console or command interface, and since I'm not knowledgeable of many of Linux's commands or terminology, this stands or is short for this, etc etc... I have no clue what I'm doing usually.

is it were DOS i'd be able to do a bit more, but with linux its just harder for me... if only they offered Linux for noobs at the local community college, even if it was a summer class thing, I'd take that to learn it or at least familiarize myself to some degree with it.

just reading tutorials and books on it, usually isn't enough, one book I have on one version, they use a lot of terminology freely as if I'm supposed to know what their talking about, and the bad thing is, the book was made for people who don't know how to use it (the OS) so its not really effective, at least not for me.
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the book was made for people who don't know how to use it

I know how you feel. hopefully ubuntu is easier. I have 8gigs of memory waiting to be put in my comp but all i have is xp 32bit.

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I believe dsl would work but I still have yet to figure it out to the point of where I can use it.
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The good thing about Ubuntu is it's *mostly* plug and play like windows. It's super easy to use, or you can get in depth with it also. There are also guides out there for anything you could ever think to do on Ubuntu, so that would help also.

I prefer Gentoo, but it's taken me forever to learn what I do know, and I maybe know like 20% of what I would like to. :\

Linux takes time to learn, so don't think your gonna be able to do everything in one day. I think it took me a FULL week to 2 just to learn how to install all the drivers I needed for my system, and then do the "tweaks" that I like.
BUT, once you learn the basics, you'll start catching on to more stuff a lot quicker.

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I have a buddy who is going for his CompTIA Linux+. So I hear alot about SUSE all day at work. And it is all command line they test on no interface. It is one brutal test. Probably just as brutal as Server+. If not worse. Its cool though to see him burn a CD using command line. Also I wouldent go Linux if I where you. What happens if you have imporant data or something on there. And you Interface dies. Your gonna have to figure out how to get back from the command line, Or force your slef to reformat and start over. Plus Ubuntu requires alot of updates and downloading. And on dial up you will be there for ever. Had to update kaspersky the other day at a person house on dial up. Took about 2 hours.
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Well you just raised an interesting point there.
You don't need AV like you do in windows. My gentoo box has been running for ~2 years with no AV installed at all. They simply don't make virus's for linux, or very few I guess I should say. I've heard of it happening, but most of the time you'd almost have to be logged in under "su" for them to be able to do anything.
And generally, you won't be logged in as a "su", sooo.....
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also one of the reasons of the lack of virus's, is besides the fact that a majority of targets for virus's use either Microsoft or Apples OS's, but there are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many versions of linux out there, its hard to make one virus that can affect most or all versions...
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where did this virus talk come about. I was just saying when I updated kasperky on a dial up connection it took a long time that is all i was implying. Nothing about Anti Virus and Linux. And even when I use a Linux OS. Like Ubuntu I still use an AV you never know when the day comes and you thank yourself. You got some form of security. Anyways Linux with no real OS experiance and knowledge. Does he at least know DOS command line. And dial up is a real bad idea. I would just stick with windows if i where him.
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