Kubuntu Kernel Issues

kubuntu=freebeer · May 25th, 2009, 11:18 PM

Hi I'm new to this forum, so please redirect me if I'm in the wrong place.

I've recently decided to try and install Kubuntu as a sort of dual-boot configuration. I have the most recent distro (9.04). I'm installing it within Windows Vista Home Premium, as I'm afraid of removing any partitions at all (not quite sure which one(s) is the built-in system recovery partition). I have a Toshiba Satellite A200 Series laptop, and I am administrator. The latter makes my issue kind of confusing. The problem I am having is:
When I start up the kubuntu installation disk, I select "Install to Windows" or whatever the second one is called. Then, it says "Extracting files from E:/" (my CD drive). OK, fine, that is completed. Then it goes on to say it's extracting the kernel. I know that is the largest file in this whole thing, and also the most important. Which is why, when it suddenly stops about halfway thru installing the kernel, I know I'm in trouble. The error message that displays is: (I've gotten this twice in a row now)
"An error occured:

Permission denied.

For more information, please see the log file:"

and then shows the directory of the log file. (I can't understand any of the log.) As I said, I am administrator, and have been the entire time I've had this computer (about 3 years now). So, how is this possible? I'm eager to use kubuntu, and, if I like it, completely replace the Windows partitions (aka removing them). Any suggestions on how to fix this without having to remove partitions when I have no idea what's in them?

Thanks,
kubuntu=freebeer
(and yes, in a certain language, it actually does mean "free beer". Or free, as in beer.)

**GroundZero3** · May 26th, 2009, 05:17 AM

Okay to install another operating system you need to have two partitions on your hard drive. One for the linux distro and the other for your windows box.

[ubuntu] Never easy, is it? - Page 2 - Ubuntu Forums

Might want to check out the ubuntu forum.

kubuntu=freebeer · May 26th, 2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GroundZero3

Okay to install another operating system you need to have two partitions on your hard drive. One for the linux distro and the other for your windows box.

[ubuntu] Never easy, is it? - Page 2 - Ubuntu Forums

Might want to check out the ubuntu forum.

I just checked it out, not sure how it can help me. I can read the whole disk (meaning, live cd works as well as the installer, memory test, and disk checker work in BIOS when i start up, and the installer works in Windows). My friend is a software developer who works at a nuclear power plant, and he has kubuntu on all but one computer (that has debian on it). He introduced me to it, and he says I dont need to remove any partitions, that the kubuntu install should just use my Windows partition (drive C:/). It says "27.? GB free" and says "install space: 15GB". My friend says that that's plenty enough space to install kubuntu. And when i clicked on the forum link u gave me, i saw that someone said something about I/O issues. Not sure what that means, but I will try the older versions (8.whatever).

Thanks, and I will come back to this!

**RobRich** · May 26th, 2009, 02:10 PM

Thread moved to the Linux forum.

**RobRich** · May 26th, 2009, 02:56 PM

You can install Linux from Windows without partitioning the drive. I suggest looking into Wubi. It will create disk image on the existing FAT32 or NTFS drive, then allow you to dual boot to Linux by mounting the disk images as a loopback device.

Wubi - Ubuntu Installer for Windows

I would not run a dedicated Linux server on such a loopback setup, but for standard Linux desktop use, there is not enough performance or reliability penalty to matter IMO.

EXreaction · May 26th, 2009, 03:05 PM

If you want to just try Kubuntu out, I'd highly recommend you use a virtual machine instead of installing it on your drive. It's much easier and there is no chance of screwing your host OS up. Plus the host OS will still be running while the virtual machine is running, so you can swap back and forth.

For virtual machine apps you can check out Microsoft VirtualPC or Sun Virtualbox (both are free).

kubuntu=freebeer · May 31st, 2009, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobRich

You can install Linux from Windows without partitioning the drive. I suggest looking into Wubi. It will create disk image on the existing FAT32 or NTFS drive, then allow you to dual boot to Linux by mounting the disk images as a loopback device.

Wubi - Ubuntu Installer for Windows

I would not run a dedicated Linux server on such a loopback setup, but for standard Linux desktop use, there is not enough performance or reliability penalty to matter IMO.

Thanks for the suggestion, though I tried this right after my last post, and it worked.
See, 9.04 is too unstable. I installed 8.04.2 uneventfully and it works. Look at my newest thread, kubuntu WLAN drivers not supported, to see what I need help with now. If anybody needs this thread as a reference, go right ahead, but I'm done with it now.

EDIT: BTW, EXreaction, that would actually be worse, since Windows Vista Home Premium on my computer is so slow. However, when I started up with kubuntu (after installing with Wubi - on the disc) I noticed that it is at least 3x faster than Vista (I'd go so far as to say 5x, but that's a little too much. Seems like it, though).

And what's this I hear of Windows 7 Starter Edition only being able to run 3 programs at a time? Wow, what a good way to lose customers, Microsoft. Hope that's not available to purchase, and only comes with crappy computers, LOL.

EXreaction · May 31st, 2009, 03:22 PM

I am pretty sure MSFT is removing the 3 programs at a time limit from starter edition.

Starter edition is only available to the US through OEM (netbooks) and has a bunch of other limitations on hardware (IIRC, cpus faster than 2Ghz are not supported or allowed, it might be single core only as well).

kubuntu=freebeer · May 31st, 2009, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EXreaction

I am pretty sure MSFT is removing the 3 programs at a time limit from starter edition.

Starter edition is only available to the US through OEM (netbooks) and has a bunch of other limitations on hardware (IIRC, cpus faster than 2Ghz are not supported or allowed, it might be single core only as well).

IC. Well, I'm not quite sure about the US part, but I'm sure not buying a Netbook anytime soon.
Feel sorry for my sister though; she wants one, and by the time she has enough money to get one, Windows 7'll be out. LOL sux for her.

EXreaction · May 31st, 2009, 06:44 PM

What?