Few more fast linux questions.

[CMonster]

Try logging in as root and clearing the /tmp folder -then you may be able to log in to KDE again ---or one of the rpms you installed may have overwritten kde libs with ones that are incompatible -you can reinstall the kde core and other kde rpms from your CDs using gnome or the command line.


BTW -the Radeon 8500 series was listed when I looked up the drivers on the above link.

[nukes]

If KDE is messed up there are two solutions I can think of from the top of my head.
1) delete the ~/.kde and ~/.kde3.1 directories. This will erase all your per-user settings, but shouldn't be much of a problem as Mandrake keeps its menus in a different format to most other distros, so you'll be able to just run KDE again, and it should start up as it was.
2) If that doesn't work, you could try uninstalling KDE completley. Be sure to do this from outside KDE, and its probably easiest to do this through DrakConf. (Mandrake Control Centre) this will be on the menu in any WM you use. Then re-install it. This should fix any broken files. Incidenty this is why you should only use RPMs from the distro maker for that specific version. Its the Linux version of DLL-Hell - RPM hell.
And about the radeon. Sorry about that. I can't really go and look things up at the moment due to erasing my /usr partition and having to reinstall Gentoo from Stage1 on a 64k connection. Adding that new mobo has been a nightmare, but the plus side is, my XP1700 is running happily at 2083mhz (166*12.5) so the compiling goes a bit faster.

[BobOmega]

ok fixed kde, i updated the kdelibs and its good now.

but the ati driver is hitting a snag. i need to generate a module or something along thoes lines. and... ok i'll edit this with exactly what it says.

edit: helps if i do this from linux.

# ./make.sh
ATI module generator V 2.0
==========================
initializing...
kernel includes at /usr/src/linux/include not found or incomplete
file: /usr/src/linux/include/linux/version.h

now that i've posted i'm going to head back over to ati and give a look at the documentation and see if i can find anything.

[Redwolf]

You need to install your kernel source or at least your kernel headers. Go into the MDK control center, Tell it to install a package from the CD (forgot the exact wording). Search for 'kernel', and check the 'kernel-source' package (installing headers on top of that is redundant, and source takes up space but can let you do more for certain things).

[BobOmega]

ok, now i get this when i go for the ./make_install.sh

# ./make_install.sh
- creating symlink
- recreating module dependency list
- trying a sample load of the kernel module
Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.22-21mdk/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY
See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules
/lib/modules/2.4.22-21mdk/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o: init_module: Operation not permitted
Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.
You may find more information in syslog or the output from dmesg
modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.22-21mdk/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.o failed
modprobe: insmod fglrx failed
failed.

[CMonster]

I think from now on I will have to preface any advice about compiling errors with "Did you install the developement packages and kernel headers?"

It looks like a running module has an IO confilict with the driver you are trying to install. Maybe someone can step in here - I don't use ATI cards - but did you thoroughly read all the install directions? It might also be necessary to unload the current ATI driver in order for the module to install -perhaps you can do it from init 3.

[BobOmega]

hmmm.... if i knew how to unload it, or what else you said.... i'll hit that up again and read it over again. maybe i missed something.

i'd like to think that i was fallowing the instructions...

[CMonster]

You may already be using the correct driver!

The ATI driver is available as an rpm on the Drake 9.2 Supplemental Applications CD (PowerPack edition) if that is the driver you installed then you are good to go - let me know if you want I can email you the rpm file.

[Epyon9283]

That should work but you should still run fglrxconfig to create the new XF86Config file before running startx.

[CMonster]

Epyon9283 -(good to know) I just discovered that the ATI driver is on the Drake 9.2 Supplemental apps CD -he should be able to install it with little or no problem.