Sager/Clevo DEFINITELY using Desktop Motherboards on their Units

[claco]

Originally posted by Tazman

Anyhew, again, I apologize for the way I stated things. I in no way intended to be an @$$ but I have a bad habit of doing that at times .

Yeah, I'm the same way. My old boss used to call it 'brutal honesty sans sugarcoating' :-)

[sid21177]

hi

i've just been to the clevo site and downloaded the specs for 56xx series

it clearly says that the chipset is an intel 845MP

but does the 845 take the new 533 Mhz FSB chips ??
that i'm not sure of

[Tazman]

sid21177 -

Welcome to TechIMO!

The chipset that you mentioned does not support the 533MHz bus speed. I found it here . If you're looking at a Sager / Powernotebooks model, you may want to give them a call. When the change the models, they usually change the motherboard type also. The Powernotebooks site says that the 5660 has a FSB of 533MHz so I would be more apt to think that the Clevo site you saw may not have been updated.

My 8880 is sweet but when I was over at the Sager site just now I noticed that the 8886's are out. Man, a month old and it's outdated . I still don'thave any complaints.

Mike

[sid21177]

oops - guess i should've seen the intel site as well - lol

oh well........

my main concern is the heat generated by the P4 as compared to the P4-M
thats whats stopping me from running & grabbing a 5660

[aviax]

Let me say that I've been following various threads on a few boards concerning both the 5660 and the 8886, I have yet to hear an actual owner complain of heat problems even once. Mind you, some people have issues with the noise generated by one or more of the fans, as well as some complaints about the HDD making clicking noises (although this problems appears to be not isolated to Sager systems and may be more due to the HDD manufacturer (Toshiba, I believe)).

But no complaints to my memory about heat problems...

[Undeadlord]

I am baffled by this as well? whats the big deal if they use a desktop mobo, obviosly the compnents on it are not the same. Now if they were lying about it, thats one thing but they are not. I have a Sager and I love mine. It never overheats and except for a harddrive crash, which they fixed, it has been rock solid.

Undeadlord

[dunbar]

Intel makes chipsets. Chipsets can be used anywhere that a mobo designer would like to use them: Rackmount servers, Desktops, Laptops, Tablet PCs, you name it. Nothing in the Intel world is forced to be excluded from a different situation than people normally see. So, in answer to the early issue of mobo chipset and applications, chipsets may be optimised for laptops, or for desktops, or for servers, but nothing forces them into some uses or out of other uses.

[Avicus]

Fire! Fire! Run for your lives! (heat!)

[beebster83]

I don't know, IMHO there is valid reason to want a laptop sized computer (well, not necessarily as small as a laptop, but the same configuration, like with the whole computer in one unit) with desktop capabilities. In college, I use my laptop for everything from homework to games to movies to tv to music to etc etc. When I go home, I can just pick it up and bring it with me and that is ALL of my stuff. Then if I want to go to a lan party, I can just pick it up and take it with me and all of the games are already installed and configured to how I want them, and I can play them at settings that rival the best desktops. I get there (or anywhere) and all I have to do is plug it into the wall and plug in my mouse, lol. Plus, with an ac/dc inverter I can do the same things in a car. I can watch movies or tv, work on stuff, play games, even have my computer read things to me. It's not something you could do with a desktop. Yes, it could be done with just a regular laptop (like an Inspiron 8200 or a toshiba or a sony, etc), but those laptops don't have a 5 spindle design with two smart bays (plus a permanent floppy disk). They don't have 533 fsb, they don't have the ability to hold 3 hard drives, etc etc etc. I'm talking about the sager 8886 of course. The 8200 has two smart bays, but one is a floppy drive. It's still a mobile processor which costs a bundle more and you get less performance and slower system bus. Yes, it runs more efficiently. But the original mobile chips ran hotter than modern day desktop chips. Besides that, the cooling system (plus the size) of the 8886 detracts from the argument that it will have way too much heat. Every laptop gets warm. My current one is a mobile chip and it gets warm too. Lol, that's part of physics. Don't buy a sager 8886 if you are going for the thin and light, but in my case, I don't care about the size and weight all that much. I will use it as a desktop primarily, just one that I move around a lot. As far as battery life, it uses the huge 12 cell battery and lasts 2 hours watching a dvd movie. If you need more battery life than that, then don't get this laptop. But if that's enough, it should not be a point of criticism of this class of laptop. I think that's an awesome length for a desktop system. Just my two and a half.

Habib

[superart]

Beebster, I agree with you. I'm getting this laptop primarily as a desktop replacement that i can lug to school. I need a powerful machine (will be doing AtuoCAD, Rhino, 3DSM, etc) and i need it to run Unreal Tournament 2003, because a computer that cant run Unreal Tournament 2003 is useless, as everyone knows . The battery time of 1.5 hours is plenty for me, since i will have many opportunities to recharge, And I'm also getting a second backup battery. Also, having up to 3 hard drives makes this computer even sweeter. I can use it just like a desktop...hence the name....DESKTOP replacement