Sager/Clevo DEFINITELY using Desktop Motherboards on their Units

[sid21177]

hmmm.....

ok - u guys win - lol
i'll take ur word(s) for it

where i live the avg temperatures r about 85-90F
and the computers tend to heat up pretty fast
i suppose i have to live with that - lol

i know the 5660 will generate more heat with respect to a lappy running a P4-M
what i'm interested in knowing is if the heat difference is significant or not ??

[aviax]

Well, here are some numbers - make of them what you will

PIIIm (pre-0.13micron technology) - 1.8 volts
0.13 micron PIIIm - 1.1-1.4V (powered) 0.95-1.15V (battery)
P4 (desktop) - 1.5 volts
P4m - 1.0-1.3V (battery)

With the avg temps in your area, maybe there is good cause for concern, but I find it interesting that even desktop P4s are cooler than older PIIIm chips. The coolest chip appears to actually be the newer version of the PIIIm...

Unfortunately, at this point I can't speak from personal experience, as much as I would like to able to...

[dunbar]

Originally posted by Avicus
Fire! Fire! Run for your lives! (heat!)

IIRC, the 430TX/430BX/440 chipsets didn't have heatsinks and they were used in both Desktops and Laptops. I know that most current chipsets from via do not use heatsinks. Some chipsets have heatsinks, yes, but not all.

These support chips are not usually the heat generating chips. Heat comes from the devices which have tens of millions of transistors all of which are always being clocked: CPUs, GPUs, etc. Heat usually does not come from the intermittantly used, half, quarter or tenth speed peripheral support chips (the 430, 440, etc) which only have maybe a single million transistors and are not being used for 100% of every instruction.

My profile mentions development engineering skills: having performed reliability (MTBF) studies in the past, transistor counts matter a lot, and duty cycle also matters a lot. This is because both transistor count and duty cycle translate into heat generation.

Does the i845E chipset have heatsinks? Links?

[superart]

If your concerned about power usage and short batery life (and rightfully so), ElectroVaya has a 3rd party battery pack that is saposed to give a huge ammount of power and batery life. They offer 2 models: the PowerPad 160, and the PowerPad 120. Although these are kinda pricy.

Also, theyr is no official support for the Sager models, but if a lot of people send in requests for sager support, they will provide it. It wont be hard, since the notebook plugs in via the DC adapter port, and the notebook sees it as just a regular external power source.

[NightShade737]

Well, we seem to have a conflict here, I just downloaded and ran the Intel Chip IP program and it says that I am running an 845MP chipset, so, which is it?

The specs say a 845MP

But people say 845E as MP doesnt support 533

and the ID program says 845MP.....


My laptop does not create much heat, and what it does create is blown out of the left hand side. But half the time it doesnt run ANY fans at all meaning its total silent (i.e. while downloading, browsing and writing).

Noise and Heat from desktop proc units is totaly over hyped.

NS

(System, Sager 5660, P4 NW 2.4ghz, Radeon 9000, 512mb DDR).