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Old September 3rd, 2009, 08:07 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Building a gaming pc, have a question about my mobo and video card

So I'm building my first pc which I intend on using for gaming.Specs below:

AMD Phenom II X2 545 3.0Ghz 6MB Cache FSB 4000MHz HT
Cooler Master RR-CCH-L9U1-GP Hyper TX2 Quiet CPU Fan/Heatsink
MSI 785GM-E65 (Radeon HD4200 Video, HDMI, DVI, PCI-Ex, 8-Channel Audio, LAN, 5xSATA2, 4xDDR3, 1394)
4GB (2GBx2) PC3 12800 DDR3 1600Mhz Memory Lifetime Warranty
320GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA300
22X LG Dual Layer DVD+/-RW/CDRW w/Nero
1GB ATI Radeon HD4850 GDDR3 PCI Express DVI/Tvout
Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3
Xion Black Solaris XON-403 (4 5.25, 5 3.5 bays) 2 Fans, Window, Front Audio/USB
650watt Antec EarthWatts EA650
Onboard LAN included
Onboard Sound included
Standard 1 year parts and labor
$764.00

Ok so I know the mobo has a Radeon hd4200 video, but I have a 4850 video card.Somebody told me I need an addon card so the video card will override the mobo video.Is this true and what is it called exactly.If you could give me a link to a site that sells one that will work with my setup I'd be greatly thankful.
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Old September 3rd, 2009, 09:02 PM     #2 (permalink)
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Actually I think I'll just get a mobo without the onboard video.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 01:00 AM     #3 (permalink)
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all you do is disable the onboard video in the motherboards bios. really easy to do, takes all of maybe a minute (if you have to dig through settings and menu's in the bios)



Otherwise the build list looks good.

much much better list of parts than most 1st time builders present on here.

looks like you did much of your research ahead of time before picking out parts. everything matches up, good quality PSU, etc.

looks good to me.

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Only change I'd make is upgrading to a 64-bit OS, like Vista 64. you won't be able to use all of your RAM with XP 32-bit, can only address 4GB max of everything, and you have 4GB RAM, 1GB Video memory, plus whatever cache memory is on the CPU, DVD Burner, HDD's, etc, deduct all the latter memory from the 4GB max, and thats roughly what you'll have for available System RAM.

grab 64bit and you should be able to use all of it.

but even still, under 32-bit, 3GB or just under it will still be plenty for a decent gaming rig.

right now, depending on which version of Vista you get, you can get a Voucher for free upgrade to Windows 7 64-bit when it comes out, right now Windows 7 Release Candidate, though has some hiccups, is almost as stable as current versions of Vista. so when it comes out in about a month and half to two months, it should be relatively rock solid as compared to when Vista debuted.
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if you could bump up your HD to a nice 500gb or 640 gb Western Digital Caviar Black you will see a nice increase in performance. Also I would just go for the regular 512mb HD4850. I dont think you will see that much of an improvement moving to 1gb (you can only have as much ram as the card can actually use, more is useless except for very specific games)
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Ah ok thanks guys. I would like to upgrade the HDD and OS, but the rig is expensive enough for me as it is.I'll probably upgrade to Vista sometime after I get the pc.Yes I've done a bit of research before hand, made sure the parts were compatabile with everything.
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Old September 4th, 2009, 06:26 AM     #6 (permalink)
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if you know someone with a copy of the download for Windows 7 Release Candidate, 64-bit version, which isn't downloadable off Microsofts site anymore, but you can still get keys for it, till October 21st.

Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) Download Is No Longer Available

but if you can obtain a copy of Windows 7 64-bit Release Candidate, you could install that on the system and give it a try. it's good until March of Next year.
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yep, I use W7 and its awesome. dont bother with vista.
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Or you could just go straight to the released version of Win7, surely?
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Getting ready to start my take down and rebuild

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all you do is disable the onboard video in the motherboards bios. really easy to do, takes all of maybe a minute (if you have to dig through settings and menu's in the bios)



Otherwise the build list looks good.

much much better list of parts than most 1st time builders present on here.

looks like you did much of your research ahead of time before picking out parts. everything matches up, good quality PSU, etc.

looks good to me.

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Shy,

Well here goes. I have everything now that you put on my list, went out last night and got a 3 foot DVI cable for the new GTX GPU. All The Shack had was a DVI cable with one end that has that DVI adapter. Any issues with those?

Also, on the TOP of the GPU are three sets of gold contacts, like a three pin next to a 6 pin next to a 4 pin ( counts could be way off, I am in the office office ) I don't use those do I? There are no connectors in the new case that match, nothing pops out at me on the mobo in the old case.

Other question, If I reset my monitor to DVI will I have recognizable screen characters / graphics BEFORE my chance to run the CD that came with the card of is that CD more for gamers?

Really appreciate your assistance. I know I have a good build list, mt pair of $7 coolers came in Wednesday too. Now I am nervous about powering down my main desktop and moving the guts to the new case. I already screwed the new 500W PS in the case. Only three screws would go, the corner has a rivet that is offset or I would just Dremel or drill it out. No biggie there.

I haven't figured out the new locking mechs for the HDD's, DVD/RW and a strange issue, the top section of my Compaq has the small board with all the slots for mem card readers. Maybe everything will line up when I pop out the sheet metal covers that are in the case now.

Thanks Again Shy!


Only change I'd make is upgrading to a 64-bit OS, like Vista 64. you won't be able to use all of your RAM with XP 32-bit, can only address 4GB max of everything, and you have 4GB RAM, 1GB Video memory, plus whatever cache memory is on the CPU, DVD Burner, HDD's, etc, deduct all the latter memory from the 4GB max, and thats roughly what you'll have for available System RAM.

grab 64bit and you should be able to use all of it.

but even still, under 32-bit, 3GB or just under it will still be plenty for a decent gaming rig.

right now, depending on which version of Vista you get, you can get a Voucher for free upgrade to Windows 7 64-bit when it comes out, right now Windows 7 Release Candidate, though has some hiccups, is almost as stable as current versions of Vista. so when it comes out in about a month and half to two months, it should be relatively rock solid as compared to when Vista debuted.

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Yea I never really liked Vista, plus theres no sense in getting the hang of one new OS (Vista) and then having to learn another OS (W7) shortly after. I'll just wait for the release of W7.
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