want to buy motherboards.

[mihgeo]

hi all,please help me,y want to buy montherboard soket am3 with chipset
amd770-sb710.
not decide witch company is better asus,gigabyte,asrock or msi
y want to montherboard :to be quality pieces, to be cold and good for overclok(stable).
thank you so much

[stroyal]

I would have said Asus hands down a few years ago, but I read a lot of customer support problems lately, and Asrock is the value division spin off of Asus, for what that is worth.

I still have a fairly high opinion of them though.

I have never used MSI, but have always heard good things.

My first choice at the moment, and for a while now, is Gigabyte.

The system builders here will want to know, how much do you want to spend, and are you getting all the parts new, or just looking for a motherboard.(then we need full specs)
We already know, you want to overclock.

What programs/games do you plan to run?

[mihgeo]

stroyal maybe you gota good card gigabyte,my computer is old (5year)y have motheboard gigabyte soket 754 GIGABYTE - Plăci de bază - Socket 754 - GA-K8NE (rev. 1.x)
chip-set is veryy hot ,mosfet is very hot ,in case is good cooling with 4 fans case open is too hot.
I do not really want a buy gigabyte

[stroyal]

Number of fans don't = good cooling.
Is the temp inside the case the same as room temp. That is good case cooling.

The real test, is to place a window fan beside the open case, blowing in.
If the temps don't go down, you have good cooling, if they do, there is room for improvement.

I wouldn't judge a board manufacturer, by a hot chip set, the chip is made by someone else, an if it is hot on that board, it will be hot on every board it is installed on, regardless of manufacture.

I don't know what a mosfet is, so I can't comment.

I think you will find that Gigabyte is highly recommended here, but the fact is that most motherboard manufacturers have their s""t together and make pretty reliable products

[-FMA]

They all put out a dud from time to time. I have owned MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS. I have been very pleased with all of them.

At the moment though I have been very happy with the higher end ASUS boards.

[ShyguyXPC]

They all put out a dud from time to time. I have owned MSI, Gigabyte and ASUS. I have been very pleased with all of them.

At the moment though I have been very happy with the higher end ASUS boards.

agreed.

As for me, I've been pretty happy in last few years with several of the Mid range MSI boards. (though I do little overclocking) as to the quality of the boards, they've always been pretty good.


My Current X58 chipset boards chipset runs a bit hot, but its common for that chipset to run like that. (add to the fact my board is part of the first crop of X58 boards from the various manufacturers when 1366 first came out)


Asus, ASrock (Subsidiary of Asus, usually a bit cheaper in price, for similar specs), Gigabyte, MSI, Biostar, Zotac, Foxconn, all are good boards in general.

[RicheemxX]

I do not really want a buy gigabyte

Pretty simple if you don't want to buy one for whatever reason don't, buy something else. TechIMO stands for Tech In My Opinion. Just because someone here likes a board or a manufacture doesn't mean I will. I usually read several reviews from several sources like customers reviews and enthusiast sites and then decide on my own what I want or what to get.

I should say you get a ton more out of doing a little research on your own than you ever could by just asking someone else to pick out a board for you!! Sometimes you see little details that you might not like that others don' mind.

Hate to tell you a motherboard alone isn't going to be "cold" . You need good cooling. As Stroyal said just because you have multiple fans doesn't mean much. You need a good CPU cooler and good air flow in and around the case.

The ability to overclock and how high you get is going to depend on a ton of factors. Most mid range boards will have some OC functions, just stay away from the lower end and you'll be fine.

You don't mention a budget, a location or what the board is going to be matched with so any real suggestion would be a shot in the dark!

Not sure why the limitation to the 770 series but from what I recall these were pretty nice boards Newegg.com - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

this would be the second recommendation
Newegg.com - MSI 870-G45 AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

[ShyguyXPC]

only thing I can think of with 770 boards, is usually lack of onboard video, Full Size ATX format and they have the 710 SB to unlock extra cores (but so does the newer 880/890 series boards)

[Morphuess]

While there are others good brands, the most well known brands out there are MSI, Gigabyte, and Asus. As all others have said, each company has a lot of great products, and occasionally a dud too.

If all the above recommendations don't work, you can do a search on newgg, filter it to that chipset you wanted, and then google a particular motherboard that catches your interest. Hopefully there will be someone out there who's written a review on that particular model and can talk about it in further detail.

Honestly though, if you aren't planning on overclocking, pretty much any motherboard from one of these three companies should to you just fine.

[KarmaKiller]

stroyal maybe you gota good card gigabyte,my computer is old (5year)y have motheboard gigabyte soket 754 GIGABYTE - Plăci de bază - Socket 754 - GA-K8NE (rev. 1.x)
chip-set is veryy hot ,mosfet is very hot ,in case is good cooling with 4 fans case open is too hot.
I do not really want a buy gigabyte

If your board is 5 years old, then I'd say most likely your thermal paste has dried up, thus why your chipset is running hot. I'm betting if you replaced the TIM, you'd see a nice drop in temps. (but a MoBo lasting for 5 years under abnormally high temps shows it's a quality board)

For AMD sockets, I always side to MSI boards. They are generally some of the best AMD boards you can get. I was turned off of Asus/Asrock a few years ago after I had a nightmare experience with their customer service, swore I'd never buy anything asus again after that.
My top choices in brands:
1. EVGA (they don't make any AMD boards anymore)
2. Gigabyte
3. MSI

[mihgeo]

hi all my choice is for amd 770_710 for several points of view:
1 buget
2 y don't want 2 slots pci-e
3y dont,t want video on board
y want to run decent games .no higt performance but low performance
for this monterboard y want AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black (unlock cores to 4),2048mb1600 mhz ram,
returning to my old monterboard :my procesor temperature is very good:32-max55,videocard hd-4670 temp.-34-max.50
monterboard the firs day is veryyyyyyyy hot chipset and mosfet,North bridge heat sink does get VERY (burn marks on my finger) HOT
I do not really want a buy gigabyte
please y,am not decide asus or msi or asrock(in this order is good?)

[ShyguyXPC]

Can I ask something? Is your "I" key busted or something? You Keep Saying "y don't" instead of "I Don't".

As To Unlocking 2 Cores on an X2, not sure thats going to happen, I have yet to read about that, usually its something along the lines of only unlocking ONE extra Core (Sempron to an X2, or X3 to an X4).

OK I just read something about it, its only on SOME X2's that this works, not all, so your chances of this happening are NOT Guaranteed. (No one who should really base an upgrade around something like this anyways, its an extra Perk if it does happen, but its never guaranteed, same as Overclocking, Never guaranteed you'll reach your target Clock speeds)

Nothing wrong with Budget, but you do realize many times the onboard video is added at practically little extra cost to the consumer?

If you get a board with Onboard video, just don't use it, simple as that.

As to not wanting 2 PCIe slots, I think you mean 2 PCI Express x16 Slots for Crossfire or SLI.

nothing wrong with having 2 of them either, just don't use the 2nd slot for a 2nd video card.

Some AMD 770 boards are made with 1 x16 Slot others have 2.

IMO your priorities for what your looking for is a bit messed up, first and foremost should be budget obviously, but second should be whether you need Full Size ATX or Micro ATX, 3rd should be the Chipset (as long as it supports AMD Socket AM3), Then decide whether you want it to be DDR2 or DDR3 compatible and how many Memory slots you need. (Either way you'll need New Memory and a CPU anyways coming from that old Socket 754 Motherboard, I'd mainly focus on DDR3 only motherboards if it were me)

THEN decide on the Overclock and Core Unlocking abilities.

The Latter of Which You'll need a SB 710 OR SB 750 Chipset, OR one of the newer 800 Series Chipsets with their SB Chips.


If the board doesn't have Coolers on the Mosfets, just source out some Mosfet Cooling heatsinks and apply them yourself to keep things cooled down, many specialty shops carry them.

AMD 770 Boards with DDR2 Support: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Motherboards,AMD Motherboards,AMD,AMD 770,DDR2 1066


AMD 770 Boards with DDR3 Support: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Motherboards,AMD Motherboards,AMD,AMD 770,DDR3 1333

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Motherboards,AMD Motherboards,AMD,AMD 770,DDR3 1600

Newegg.com - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

[mihgeo]

my final decision for this:
ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards - ASUS M4A77T
procesor(unlock cores 2-4):
Newegg.com - AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition Callisto 3.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Desktop Processor - C3 Revision HDZ555WFGMBOX
and memory:
kingston kit 3gb/ddr3/1600mhz

<<<Thank you very much>>>

[ShyguyXPC]

Um, why 3GB kit? You do realize that kit is for a Triple Channel Motherboard (Intel Core i7 Socket 1366 motherboards), right?

AMD doesn't support Triple Channel, only Dual Channel, so you should of gone for a 4GB Dual Channel Kit instead.

[mihgeo]

kit 3 giga is 3x1giga ram,montherboard have 4 slots for memory,was left 1slots free.
i need 3 giga ram for use windows xp sp3
2x2 giga ram cost more than 3x1 giga ram
windows xp does not recognize 4 giga ram
I have nothing to do with so much memory,good enough 3 giga ram for sistem

nice smiles
ShyguyXPC is nr.1

[RicheemxX]

By your logic you could probably just go with a 2gb kit and leave 2 slots for later, but really I don't see that a 3x1gb kit is costing any less than a 2x2gb (4gb) kit. On newegg they seem to be priced about them same.

The 32bit version of Windows XP can use a total of 4gbs that means all ram including your video card. If it were me and the prices were the same I'd buy a 4gb kit, add it in and you'll probably end up with about 3.5gbs of usable ram.

[ShyguyXPC]

Or just use all 4 slots with a 2x 1GB kit and a 2x 512MB Kit, Problem solved.

But like Rich mentioned grab the 4GB kit and just lose use of the extra 512MB or so.

What are you doing that you NEED 3GB for in XP, but no more than that?

Doesn't make much sense, in Windows XP (32-bit Versions), most times 2GB is enough to do most tasks in, if you NEED more than that, 3GB for example, then you could probably grab 4GB and be fine as well.


Newegg Pricing...

DDR3 1600MHz

2GB 2 x 1GB: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Memory,Desktop Memory,240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM,DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800),2GB (2 x 1GB)

$31.99 Lowest Price

3GB 3 x 1GB: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Memory,Desktop Memory,240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM,DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800),3GB (3 x 1GB)

$49.99 Lowest Price

4GB 2 x 2GB: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Memory,Desktop Memory,240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM,DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800),4GB (2 x 2GB)

$42.99 Lowest Price (And NOTE that its cheaper than a 3GB kit, Which backs up Rich's Suggestion)



As Rich said, just Grab a 4GB Kit and use it, forfeit the Extra 512MB of memory (If your Radeon 4670 is a 512MB Card, if its 1GB, then you'll lose 1GB of the RAM, but given its cheaper pricing, its not a real loss)

Plus if you ever upgrade to a 64-bit OS, you suddenly have that extra RAM to use.

[mihgeo]

Hi all again,motherboard supports1066,1333,1600o.c.,1800o.c mhz,to buy memory at 1800mhz or 1600mhz is stable???

And last question if you buy memory:1800mhz or 1600mhz motherboard first sees her value???

[stroyal]

In theory, when set to SPD,(or what ever your setting that reads the memory chip), it should default to the stock speed of the memory.

However, even non-over clock settings, sometimes, have to be set manually, on some boards. Possibly any overclock setting will have to be set manually also.

You will just have to see, unless someone has that board.

It is no big deal. if it has to be set manually.

[ShyguyXPC]

Most Motherboards these days will run the RAM at 1066MHz, some may run at 1333MHz.

But For anything faster most the time you'll need to set the Memory Speed in the BIOS.

I think there are some boards that may detect it at its OC speeds, but considering Most OCing Memory (At whatever the speeds it supports), is Optional whether you want to run it at 1600 or whatever, that it shows up at the minimum or Max stock speeds of 1066 or 1333 makes sense too.