Thread: Processor upgrade help
July 7th, 2011, 12:06 AM #1
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Processor upgrade help
I hope I am in the right forum and someone can help please forgive the nube I'm still learning I have been to several forums no one has helped this was the top forum on google I could find that looked intelligent about what I needed. I have a HP a1720n Motherboard asus P5LP-LE (Leonite) Specifications for the processor: intel core 2 duo 6300 sl9sa malay 1.86ghz/2m/1066/06/L6338018 with 775 socket I run vista 32 bit I have replaced the motherboard already with the same (other burnt out) it has 3 gigs ram have replaced the fans both went out replaced hard drive it went bad (I know I should have canned it already but had the money to replace parts at the times not the whole thing) Here is my deal sorry for rambling I put new OEM vista on it and it was clean not much junk DL SP1 and SP2 and it runs just as slow if not more than it did before I did that with several large progs running on it. I was thinking I should upgrade the Processor I read online somewhere that a E6300 could only upgrade to a E6500 or E6700 only then I saw someone had a diff. type board I think and went from a 6700 to 8300 I know the 65-67 are 1066 and DDR2 and I think the 8600 is 1333 ddr3. I don't game wife pogos I edit video some and watch video online. These are my questions?
Which if any can I really use?
Will this help speed my system up?
If 8600 can be used will I be able to use the DDR3 1333 on my system?
Which would be my better choice?
Does it have to be core 2 duo or could it be anything 775 socket like? Not necessarily like quad or anything but like 2 core triple core just anything other than duo?
Lastly if I can upgrade is there any other modifications like power or video card that I might have to do with any of them to make the thing work other than with the 8600 upgrading the memory to ddr3?
Thanks for any help any one can give I am starting IT school and trying to learn as much as I can and classes are starting online this 1/4 and have to use this slow junk!
One other thing here is the intel link to all 3 on a compare page so anyone can look at them if need be:
July 7th, 2011, 12:32 AM #2
Ist off, were talking about a PC near the end of its REAL life...
You MIGHT get another year or 2 out of it, but thats optimistic...
Any real money you spend on this is really a waste.
You'd likely get the best bang for buck from a memory upgrade before a CPU upgrade, if it still only has the 1 gig of standard memory it came with...
Beyond that I'd say this is a waste of time and likely a waste of money better spent...
If your looking to get into IT, nows a good time to get your hands dirty and build your own...
Alot of less tech savvy members have done just that and saved money as well as become their own tech support.
July 7th, 2011, 02:14 AM #3
Agree with everything JP suggested.
but to add some clarifications for the CPU and RAM.
Your motherboard will ONLY Support DDR2 if that is what it currently uses. DDR3 and DDR2 Are not compatible with each other, they have the same number of pins, but the divider notch on the sticks/slots are placed differently, they run at different speeds and bandwidths and the power requirements differ.
As to the Core 2 Duo 8600 needing DDR3, not so, it will run on DDR2 or DDR3, depends on the motherboard. for an 8600 to work in your system I believe you would need an Intel G31 or G41 or better Chipset (or equivalent Nvidia Chipset, Nforce 600, 700, Geforce 7000, 8000 Chipset or better).
It may also need a Bios update on boards with those chipsets.
Yours, all you can run is 1066 FSB Core 2 1st Generation CPU's or lesser on it (Pentium Dual Core, Core 2 Duo, Celeron)
Your best bet, would be to build a newer system, rather than keep trying to cobble together this older one.
A cheap AMD Socket AM3 system, Lower end Intel Socket 1155 system would probably be best bets.
Though as JP said, if your only running 1GB of RAM right now, getting a 2nd 1GB amount in there if possible would be beneficial, especially with Windows Vista.i7 940//Corsair H60//EVGA X58 SLI LE//6GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz//2x EVGA GTX 560 Ti FPB SLI//NZXT Hale82 850W//CM 690 II Advanced//Win7 64//WD 74GB V-raptor, 750GB Black, 1.5TB Green
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July 7th, 2011, 03:20 AM #4
July 7th, 2011, 05:53 PM #5Processor upgrade information
Socket type: 775
Motherboard supports the following processor upgrades:
Core 2 Duo E6x00
Core 2 Duo E4x00
Pentium D 9x0 Dual Core
Pentium D 8xx Dual Core
Pentium 4 6x1 series
Celeron D 3xx series
July 9th, 2011, 01:22 AM #6
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I saw this and got the run around from HP about the same thing here the only thing they don't tell you in this explanation is that if its a odd number for some reason its only compatable with odd number upgrade if its even its the same on even upgrade I have seen to many people talk about that and one person I spoke to said he upgrade a 6700 to 8600 and it doesnt explain that but thanks for the help.
July 9th, 2011, 01:25 AM #7
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Thanks to everyone looks like I'll run this one in the ground while saving for a new one.
And yes it has 3 gigs can take up tp four but found out even if I put 4 in it will only use 3 out of those 4. Thanks again
July 9th, 2011, 09:15 AM #8
The E8600 will not work in you motherboard because the chipset only supports up to 266MHz (1066) front side bus CPUs. The 8600 has a 333MHz (1333) front side bus.
The best upgrade you can do is the E6700 2.66GHz and the expense really can't be justified for the relatively small speed increase.
July 9th, 2011, 12:59 PM #9
If you had a 64bit operating system, all 4gig would show up.
32 bit operating systems, of any kind, can only address 4 gig, but that includes video ram, and any other kind of memory in the system.
All the other memory is addressed first, so if you have 1 gig of memory, on all the other stuff, there is only 3 gig of addresses left for system RAM.Hard Sayin Not Knowin
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