Thread: Ipod shuffle vs...
January 12th, 2005, 08:52 PM #1
Ipod shuffle vs...
What are the competitors right now?
Is there anything in the competitors future linup to match or better the Shuffle?
Does it work as a driver free device so you can transfer songs and folders just like any other USB drive? (on newer systems of course) You
Right now I am in need of a USB key type drive and the shuffle turns me on , why not go for a mp3 player as well huh?. If this thing had a display I would buy it tonight, but I don't know If I want to press a button 100+ times while listening to find the song that I want.
January 12th, 2005, 09:22 PM #2
While there are similar speced competitors out there, I believe the iPod shuffle is the cheapest. You can set the shuffle to play your playlist in order. So what order you have it in itunes, shuffle will play in that order. Display is useless as small as this IMO. As soon as I hear the beginning of the music I know the name of it.RIP, F-14 tomcat. Best fighter in the world for 33 years
January 12th, 2005, 10:54 PM #3
Let me take a realistic view here, monk.
The ipod shuffle is a flop. For $100 you get a unit that has no screen, no frills, nothing, and has the irriating feature of shuffling (no, it does not play it in order). I don't know what Mr. Macintosh is talking about because I don't know about you, but I don't feel like waiting for the shuffler to find the track I want its randomizer to play. In case you haven't noticed, reading a display and flipping through a large playlist is much easier with a display that shows the title. Sure, you can wait for each track to start to determine what it is, but that would take a while if I'm looking for track 17 on a list of 30. Oh yeah, and that's right, the ipod shuffle doesn't even go in order, you have to wait for the randomizer to hit track 17.
Contrary to what Mr. Fanboy...I mean Macintosh here thinks, the ipod shuffle falls quite short of its competition. When you look at some of Creative's offerings, they already have the integrated screen, which displays battery life and all of the menu buttons, etc. The ipod shuffle relies on lights to tell you battery life and other things. They also already have an integrated FM tuner in some of them.
Example: The Nomad Muvo TX: http://content.europe.creative.com/p...ic_prod610.jpg (also check out some of iriver's offerings)
I don't know about you, but I really don't think the ipod shuffle is even close to its competition. For $100-150 you can find a lot of really good flash MP3 players out there that smoke this ipod. Really, what you're paying for here is the ipod cult aspect, and if you want that, fine, but I really don't see how this measures up to the competition, ipod cult aspect aside.
January 12th, 2005, 11:01 PM #4
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January 12th, 2005, 11:11 PM #5
one of my friends has that creative one and loves it. he can also just plug the usb into his creative speakers and it plays it right there
January 12th, 2005, 11:17 PM #6
Its pretty hard to beat for the capacity vs. cost though.
I've used the "Muvo" series of players and thought they were really nice. Screen on the player and the usb flash drive part of it is detachable so you can use that seperately if you want it to be even smaller.
January 12th, 2005, 11:21 PM #7
lmfao, I know this is random but, I was looking at the Ipod shuffle site:
Look at footnote # 2.....
"2. Do not eat iPod shuffle."
How dumb does Mac think people are...
January 12th, 2005, 11:29 PM #8
It is called a sense of humor. And you can set it to play in order.
Originally Posted by Apple
I am sorry for making the cheapest thing. I bought my cousin a $70 128 MB flash player and I saw the 512 MB players at bestbuy and I saw $150as their price. That is why I said it.RIP, F-14 tomcat. Best fighter in the world for 33 years
January 13th, 2005, 02:53 AM #9Originally Posted by Mr.Macintosh
January 13th, 2005, 03:02 AM #10
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I just bought I nomad N200 512mb for $130 (the gig is $190), it's great, has fm radio, radio recording and a mic and line in, not to mention drag and drop connectivity and folder navigation, with a rechargeable battery it has roughly 30 hours of playtime (in fact I'm listening to it right now instead of my computer). I also have a Nomad Zen Xtra, Muvo TX FM, 20gb Ipod and a few other flash based MP3 players, I like the N200 the most. I can't even feel it in my pocket. It's not as cheap as the shuffle but at least it has a screen.
I'm sorry but the "random" feature is not revolutionary, it isn't even worth metioning IMO. Other than the price there is little reason to buy a Apple Shuffle, which shouldn't be the main selling point for an MP3 player, especially from a name-brand.
Last edited by cysus; January 13th, 2005 at 03:06 AM.
January 13th, 2005, 12:58 PM #11no, it does not play it in order
Last edited by SpookyEddy; January 13th, 2005 at 01:12 PM.
January 13th, 2005, 07:34 PM #12Originally Posted by SpookyEddy
Originally Posted by Whir
cysus has a good point about the Muvo TX FM there. That was my reference in my first post above and didn't exaclty want to just blurt out one player because in reality Creative has an entire line of flash players, and all of them are formidable and reasonably priced with a little looking around. iriver's offerings do tend to be a little more on the pricey side, but those are really nice and souped up, definitely the most sophisticated around.
January 14th, 2005, 02:55 PM #13
The ipod shuffle is NOT the cheapest. My brother has the Sandisk 1gb for 129.99 from buy.com (with an lcd). Now its back up to 148.99 (which is about equal to the ipod shuffle):
You guys shouldn't call the shuffle the cheapest, it's not.
I can tell you this:
I am NOT paying 150$ for a device that does not allow me to choose my song. Sure you can listen to first part of each song... but at a gb, that RIDICULOUS!
Think about it, you have 240 songs and if you had to find a single song out of this bunch - you would have to listen to about 2 seconds of each song to figure it out (this includes the time to click and the time to hear the beginning notes). WIth 240 songs to sift through, that's 2 seconds/song x 240 songs = 480 seconds which EQUALS 8 MINUTES!!
A "No-LCD" device works ONLY if the capacity wasnt extremely large, but at 512mb and 1gb.... an lcd is NECESSARY to sort through the numerous files. I dont care if anyone claims that a device this "small" doesnt require an lcd - size has NOTHING to do with it. Make an lcd remote then.
That is plain stupid, IMO.
Last edited by pinipig523; January 14th, 2005 at 02:58 PM.
January 14th, 2005, 03:07 PM #14
8 minutes of shuffling! OH YEAH!My other car is a T-34.
January 14th, 2005, 03:21 PM #15
I think the Shuffle is basically a regular iPod that was horribly deformed during the manufacturing process where the machine that put out the lcd missed and the circuit board was defective causing the shuffle function to stay on permanently.
iPod + Frankenstein = iPod ShuffleMy other car is a T-34.
January 14th, 2005, 06:13 PM #16
January 14th, 2005, 11:16 PM #17Originally Posted by pinipig523
And he's not even factoring loading time and the fact that tracks usually don't start in the first two seconds.
January 14th, 2005, 11:55 PM #18
On that note, the way I use my mp3 player is to load a bunch of songs before I go out and set it to "random" mode and hit the fast forward button when I get to a song that I don't feel like.
To each his own I guess.
January 15th, 2005, 12:17 AM #19Originally Posted by VHockey86
McDonalds got sued because they didn't have "Caution: Product Maybe Hot" on the cup.....how many people drink their cofee cold? Dumb....don't think the suer won, but still....costs for lawyers.i7 950, 6GB 1333, ATI 5870, 2 RAID0
January 15th, 2005, 12:24 AM #20
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It seems the Ipod Shuffle's webpage wants to convince people that not having an lcd screen or control over what you want to play is a good thing!
I do like the looks on the thing though.Mr. Jiggyfly, I have good news...
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