Router hook up

[mad1]

I have a computer with a 10/100 network card and a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Can I connect the 10/100 card to the router the route to another computer?

[DVNT1]

yes (if I understand you correctly)

[GroundZero3]

yes you can because that router has a built in switch

[mad1]

Can this router be detected by the internet service provider? I want to connect my daughters computer to the internet on the main floor of the house,mine is in the basement and the contract is for a single use computer.I have informed the company that I will upgrade my modem and my service but I have not gotten a response yet. My view on this is that I am sharing my internet connection in my home not attempting to steal anything from the ISP.So

[surreal]

If you run both computers into the router, then the router into your modem then the router gives your ISP an IP number not your computers. It should show you only have 1 computer to the ISP. When really that is your router not a computer.
That's why they are safe as a firewall, it protects the computers behind it, and a hacker could only see the router, not your computers.

[GroundZero3]

mad you are not stealing anything. you are just sharing out to others in your house. the router doesn't take extra bandwidth from others. the only thing is cable compaines will not support if you can't configure the rotuer to work with the provider.

[Mortis]

Cant comment on any intent to deceive your ISP and use "unpaid" for services. However, here, thats not the case since you informed your ISP that you plan on adding another comp therefore wanting another IP address for your daughter . With that in mind, if your IP is negligent in processing or responding to your info and request, then the setup with your router will work and even though you attempted to inform your ISP of your actions, they will not be aware of your activity as asked. A Router assumes the IP assigned by your ISP and then assigns its own internal IP addresses to each comp connected. If configured appropriately, you will have not only have FULL shared internet access, but protection and anonymoty.

Hope this helps
Mortis

[Mortis]

Man you guys are quick... LOL. Ok, I was trying to be all smooth with my response and everything so as to not speak against his TOS and TIMO stuff... but- Nope, like the others said- INVISIBLE. Have fun!

[mad1]

My incoming connection is through a 'USB Silver Client" from Orinoco.I want to take the output from the 10/100 card and then go to the router and then to my daughters computer through a 10/100 card,will this work.

Mortis,
I am not attempting to deceive or steal anything from my ISP provider,that is why I contacted them prior to connecting a router(the router is still in the box).

Does anyone have information on using a 'Linux firewall computer"?

[Mortis]

Before this gets off topic... yea- I know Mad, and I agree with GZ3 on this... I was attempting to answer your question without publicly directing you against your TOS (ISP Terms Of Service) and TIMO policy.

In reading my postS (plural), you should have gotten THAT while also reading that I answered your question and support your use of YOUR internet service.

Yes, your setup plans WILL work.

GoodLuck

Geesh... I seem to have a hard time lately with people reading what I write... or, is it just me?

Edited for clarification: Wanted to make sure I was understood finally.

[GroundZero3]

atuaclly a router is not against alot of ISP providers TOS. they just won't support any problem you have while you are connected thru the router. so if your having problems, disconnect the router, plug the computer directly into the modem and if you get the same results, then call up the cable company. if you say im connected thru a router, bam! they will start blaming the router. when ever i have problems with coxs i always unplug the router so they can't complain about it.

[mad1]

Mortis,

Do you know anything about using another computer (linux OS)
as a firewall.

Thanks for the help.

[surreal]

Originally posted by mad1
My incoming connection is through a 'USB Silver Client" from Orinoco.I want to take the output from the 10/100 card and then go to the router and then to my daughters computer through a 10/100 card,will this work.


Does anyone have information on using a 'Linux firewall computer"?

No plug both machines into the router. Then plug your router into your modem. That way you set up a NAT for both machines.

Why would you need the Linux Firewall when you have a router?

[mad1]

Surreal,
My current modem does not support "NAT",I have to change to the RG1000 modem.

Thanks

[surreal]

Then if you run it the way your talking, it defeats the purpose.
Because your router has an IP also, so one way the router shows one, the other way the computer shows one..
Have you tried to set up ICS? (Microsoft Internet connection sharing?)
With that you would plug daughter into your computer and she could surf that way. I've used it before I had cable and was on dial up. I had 4 hooked into my main box, and only my main box pulled an IP.

[GroundZero3]

modem does not need to support NAT as its done thru the router.

so if you have linux machine it will do the NAT routing for you.

[osprey4]

Originally posted by GroundZero3
atuaclly a router is not against alot of ISP providers TOS.

Our TOS (OOL) permits connection sharing. In fact, we had a service guy come out last week to check my modem levels and I was told he'd want to bypass the router. But he was more than happy to leave it in place while he checked everything out (even complimented my setup).

Also, the BEFSR41 does support NAT, so you do have a hardware firewall. As long as you already have the router, there's no need to go to the trouble of using ICS. You can easily plug a linux box into this router. Should work fine.

John

[Mortis]

My TOS doesnt support or allow multiple internet connections when paying for ONE IP address... its scaled, One comp is so much, 3-5 is so much.. .so on and so forth. This is ATTBI. I would check those TOS's- not what the Tech says, but what the TOS says at the site- just to be informed...


Mad1-
If you plan to use the Linux box as both a pc and Firewall, I am vaguely familiar with what you could do with such a setup, but have never configured such a setup.

If you are attempting to use your Linux Box as a transparent proxy server with IP packet filtering, redirection and screening then your biggest hurdles may be in actual configuration/settings, not physical setup.

I am not sure what you are asking, but it seems the others are getting you on the right track.

What do you want to do with this? If you are doing this for security- Its going to be tighter than a Frogs butt... and thats water tight... hehe.

[surreal]

Ok so it looks to me as though you have one of these, and don't want to have to buy another for your daughters computer.. Right?

[GroundZero3]

also if you do you use a linux box make sure they have drivers for the modem before starting. i some cable modems are not supported by linux