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June 7th, 2012, 08:23 PM #1
Firewall does not ID network properly
I need to secure a windows 7 laptop that has to be able to share files and printers when on my home network but have the firewall locked down when not on the home network. This seems to happen with both Comodo Firewall and the built in Windows firewall.
The problem that I have is that firewall software that I have used in the past seems to only use the router ip/subnet of the network to tell which network it is connected to. i.e. Home vs. Public
This means that if the laptop firewall is set to enable a "Home" profile when connected to a home network and you then connect to a network in a coffee shop that uses the same router ip/subnet of my actual home the laptop would than be susceptible to a wide variety of attacks like people trying to log in to windows remotely.
Any ideas on how to properly secure this laptop? Is there any (free?) firewall software that is more advanced in how it IDs the network.
The laptop is running Windows 7 Home Premium.
Thank you!Last edited by sulusulu; June 7th, 2012 at 10:06 PM. Reason: Edited to fix dumb mistake.
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June 7th, 2012, 09:38 PM #2
I don't recall the W7 firewall only using the router ip/subnet to determine which networks to allow connections to. As you said that would be utterly pointless as almost all routers by default use the same ip scheme create the same subnets. AFAIK it asks according to each connection ID or MAC address. Say for instance I change my router ID at home, I'm asked again to setup my type of connection. Even though my router is the same, same IP, subnet ect.
Well yeah, obviously if you "allow" it to connect to setup a "home" or "trusted" connection it would by default us the same settings it would when connected to a trusted network. It should by default however ask you which type of connection you want. And IMO it should never be a home connection.This means that if the laptop firewall is set to enable a "Home" profile when connected to a network in a coffee shop that uses the same router ip/subnet of my actual home the laptop would than be susceptible to a wide variety of attacks like people trying to log in to windows remotely.
Or maybe I'm just confused on what you are saying
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June 7th, 2012, 10:34 PM #3
Opps... That was supposed to say:
I could be wrong about the windows firewall but I will check again to be safe. It's been awhile since I used my laptop outside my home. (I'm setting up someone else's laptop)This means that if the laptop firewall is set to enable a "Home" profile when connected to a home network and you then connect to a network in a coffee shop that uses the same router ip/subnet of my actual home the laptop would than be susceptible to a wide variety of attacks like people trying to log in to windows remotely.
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June 7th, 2012, 11:02 PM #4
With W7 the very first time you connect to each connection you should always be asked what type of connection you are connecting to. Home, Work, or Public. So your firewall settings would be set for whatever connection type you select.
So assuming you are going to a public access point. The very first time you connect to that new connection with a new SSID, router and network ID (maybe even mac address) it should ask you which type of network you want. Home, Work or Public.
The IP/Subnet ect of the router makes no difference at all. AFAIK it all plays off the network ID and router's mac address.
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June 8th, 2012, 05:45 AM #5
In Comodo you can add the MAC address as the network zone. It should go by MAC address.
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