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December 14th, 2002, 06:47 PM
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It seems that when I boot up my home network, everything comes up fine. Everyone is visible. The DSL modem connection comes right up. Bandwidth is excellent.
But after surfing/posting a short while (15 mins or so?), the connection goes down.
I thought it was the DSL modem, but I find that actually I can't log onto the router anymore.
Right now, I have
2 AMD boxes on Win98se with sharing enabled.
Smartlink 10/100 autosensing NICs.
A 4-port Gigafast ethernet router. Latest firmware installed.
Speedstream 5630 DSL modem.
CAT-5e cables, max length 25'
TCP/IP, IPX/SPX, and NetBUEI all installed.
DSL ISP is running PPPoE, & I have no static IPs.
Any ideas, folks? | 
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December 14th, 2002, 06:53 PM
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Try different network cards. | |
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December 14th, 2002, 08:09 PM
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Do both computers have the same problem at the same time (not able to communicate with the router anymore)?
Can the W98 machines ping each other before and after connectivity to the router is lost? | |
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December 15th, 2002, 12:06 PM
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| Quote: | Do both computers have the same problem at the same time (not able to communicate with the router anymore)? | Not necessarilly. One can go down while the other stays connected. Or both can go down. Or both can sometimes (rarely) stay up for quit some time.
Quote: | Can the W98 machines ping each other before and after connectivity to the router is lost? |
Haven't tried with the "ping" command yet. They do disappear from each other's "Network Neighborhood", but can then still be found with "Find Computer" sometimes (and sometimes not!) Yet after "Find Computer" finds them, they still won't pop up in "Network Neighborhood" even after a refresh.
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December 15th, 2002, 12:15 PM
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OK, With the router "up", they can ping each other, even though they don't show up in each other's "Neighborhood".
Router LAN DHCP clint list shows correct IPs and MACs but lists both host names as (unknown).
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December 15th, 2002, 01:04 PM
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BTW, the Network Neighborhood isn't reliable for anything.  You can make it more consistant by disabling the Master Browser on of the two Win98 machines.
Just so I understand better, how are you gauging when they are "down"? Do you mean you can't see the other one via Network Neighorhood, they can use the Internet anymore, or both? | |
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December 15th, 2002, 02:25 PM
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Ummm...
I figure the router is down if my DSL connection drops & then I can't ping the router.
If one PC can access the DSL line & the other one gets dropped, I figgure it's the router. | |
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December 15th, 2002, 02:58 PM
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i have (and had) similiar issues with my dsl connection shared with a linksys router...
it used to work fine on 768, but in the last 2 weeks i upped it to 1.5 down and now like you said, about after 15 minutes everything just sucks. i end up restarting EVERYTHING(as per linksys 1. modem, then 2. the router, then 3. the computers) and it works for a little bit again
what i have done to help is set the router to "keep alive" redialing every 20 seconds when the connection is not being used. (this sucks cuz i like to let kazaa run 24/7)
sometimes i have problems getting online on 1 computer...
this is usually due to a bad ip. an ip that doesnt have a 192.168 basically i just restart then 7 times and it works. when that happens, i am still on the LAN fine(see other computers), i can not access the router, and not allowed to surf due to restrictions on the router.
i am thinking a resolution for that is to disable DHCP and make the 3 computers static, but just havetn gotten arround to taht yet.
recently i have been having the troubles i described above alot. but i hope that helps you a little? i dunno | |
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December 15th, 2002, 06:02 PM
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| Quote: Originally posted by caddmannq
,..I figure the router is down if my DSL connection drops & then I can't ping the router.... | You didn't say you couldn't ping the router before!
Try changing the firmware on the router. | |
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December 16th, 2002, 12:04 AM
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Well, not exactly...
In my first post I said that "...I find that actually I can't log onto the router anymore." That is IE won't find the router, which I assumed means you can't ping it...maybe not the same thing? I'll have to try it.
Today it's worked more or less OK, so I'll just have to wait until it goes down again.
Anyhoo....the router has the latest firmware, as I also stated in my first post. | |
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