Thread: WinXP Home can't join a Domain
January 13th, 2002, 01:02 PM #1
WinXP Home can't join a Domain
Oh no, guess what happened... ( slight rant here but, I need help! )
I was talking with a new employee at work, they wanted to get a laptop so they can do their work at home and at work. Thatís fine since we already have other people setup this way ( including myself ) so, I gave him a few outlines of what he should get with his laptop. FYI, he is a real estate broker and these people work independent of the company and often they have to buy their own stuff, this is why I didnít order him one myself through the company.
Anyway, I told him NOT to get WinXP ( we all use 98 and 2k and I like to keep everyone on the same page mostly ) I also told him try to get a Pent or Athlon and at least 128MB of RAM. I suggested that he check out Dell or Toshiba since they seem to be good for laptops and we have a preferred customer account with Dell, the service is unbeatable!
So, I come into work Friday to find out that he just couldnít wait any longer for me to help him pick one out, so he ran out to some store and bought a HP Pavilion Laptop. Right away I was thinking "why did he even ask me my opinion?" Come to find out that he bought a Celeron 1.13Ghz ( ok, not tooo bad for him ) w/ 256MB RAM ( ok, that sounds good ), Running WinXP Home ( uh oh ) I donít know WinXP but I figure that I will try and work with it for him anyway.
I start trying to setup his computer for our network so he can get to using it and then I seem to have a little trouble finding the settings for logging into our NT domain... I looked and looked, he could access our network but I couldnít find out how to setup up his domain settings. Now I come to find out that WinXP Home wont work with a network domain! !@#$%...
Here is the article I just found on this
Seriously, why do people even ask for an opinion sometimes when they do whatever they want in the end anyway.
I donít want to deal with day to day problems and trying to ghetto rig his laptop to work with our network manually unless there is a better way.
Ok, my question is, is there anyway around this like a tweak, an add-on or 3rd party program to get him logged onto our domain easily or do I have to have him now buy another version of Windows and revamp his whole computer?
Last edited by PonzSpyder; January 13th, 2002 at 01:04 PM.
January 14th, 2002, 10:27 AM #2
I need advice, anyone have a suggestion about what I should do in this case?
January 14th, 2002, 11:11 AM #3
Its clear that XP home doesn't support joining a domain.
I personally would tell him he must buy compatable/approved software or he doesn't get any support.
If the access needs are small, create a local user (on the server) and have him access the resouces that way?
Another idea is through Terminal services. Have him use a TS session to access everything (programs and resources). The inital setup/costs may be relatively high but TS can be usefull for several other reasons too.
I have no clue about 3rd party software to get around the XP home limitation.
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Last edited by DVNT1; January 14th, 2002 at 11:42 AM.
January 14th, 2002, 11:37 AM #4
tell him to wipe his drive and get 2k...
that's the easiest solution...
January 14th, 2002, 11:45 AM #5
i don't believe there is any 3rd party software that will enable the 'missing' domain feature. and any attempt to do so would have m$ jumping on their back...
either return the machine and get another installed w/w2k or xp-pro. or purchase the software and install it yourself.
January 14th, 2002, 11:48 AM #6
Or tell him to return the laptop to the place he bought it and to tell the clerk that he thought the laptop came with XP Pro and not the Home version
But seriously, I haven't heardof any 3rd party program that does this! Definitely get NT, 2k or XP Pro.boo!
January 14th, 2002, 01:17 PM #7
Thank you all for your responses
I informed him to call the place he bought the laptop from and give them the story that eagle1 mentioned ( this I did before even reading this post, lol ) although I want to see if he can convince them to exchange WinXP Home for Win2k Pro. I think it may be cheaper after all, we'll see...
If they wont go for this deal, I will have to install Win2k on his machine and reinstall everything else. After all, who knows what other conflicts we will run into with XP. Most may not be aware of this but a lot of real estate programs are not the most updated programs in the world so XP support may be lacking so, we cant afford to take the chance just yet on XP, I will give it at least a few more months to dive into that one.
As I am typing this reply, he just came over to my desk and told me that he talked with them and they said he can return it within 14 days for a full refund, YAY!! He is willing to go for it and apologized for being so anxious in getting this laptop without following my guidelines. I agreed to help him buy one ( step by step ) from dell online as long as his return goes through ok. Wheew, it looks like we may have a solution here
Thank you all for backing me up, sometime I just lose my head a bit and get frustrated.
<takes a deap breath>
January 15th, 2002, 11:37 AM #8
Congratz for your friend!!!!
And BTW Storytelling always work!!!boo!
January 15th, 2002, 07:43 PM #9
Just a minor update here:
He came in today and was telling me about how hard it was to actually return the laptop and NOT buy another system from them before leaving. Apparently, these sales guys kept telling him that he was wrong and that WinXP Home works great with all kinds of networks too... Now I understand how he made the mistake he did, donít always trust the salespeople! hehehe
On a "silver lining" side of things, this whole issue has now become an "ice-breaker" between us ( since he is new to the company ) and we have been laughing about it all the time
January 16th, 2002, 01:14 AM #10
- Join Date
- Oct 2001
I was wondering about home + networks...
answered that question
Didn't think it did support domains, but definitive answer now.
Laughing at the new guy is always fun too
January 16th, 2002, 01:40 AM #11
I had some limited success when I was using XP home for some hardware testing by creating a user on the XP machine with the same name and password as the one on the domain. I was able to access some of my networked resources, but it was definitely suboptimal. XP Pro eliminates the problem if your user needs/wants the wiz-bang of XP.
An idea occurs to me though, I wonder how the Novel Netware network client installs and runs under XP Home...-800XL
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