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  • November 30th, 2004, 12:54 AM
    fosin
    Quote Originally Posted by crazeeMoeFoe
    25 ms Response Time on a 19" is terrible.
    They combine the average rise and decay together. I don't think other makers do that. 12 ms rise on those I believe. Probably 15ms at the most since it has an IPS screen (I haven't seen a slow one with IPS).
  • November 29th, 2004, 06:37 PM
    crazeeMoeFoe
    Quote Originally Posted by jml90
    I don't want to beat the dead horse but get like 3 of these http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...005-021&depa=1 and a vid card that supports 3 monitors
    25 ms Response Time on a 19" is terrible.

    If your going to go w/ 3 monitors, atleast get some w/ a maximum of 12ms to 15ms response time.

    ViewSonics have good response rates.

    As far as 3 monitors VS Widescreen. It's only a matter of preference.
    I've played w/ both and I prefer the Widescreen. The 3 monitor "split" screen view is very annoying-- but that's just me.
  • November 29th, 2004, 05:10 PM
    jml90
    I don't want to beat the dead horse but get like 3 of these http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...005-021&depa=1 and a vid card that supports 3 monitors
  • November 29th, 2004, 04:19 PM
    crazeeMoeFoe
    I have worked on dual Monitors for a while now, and it has been great, ...
    but you will need 3 in order for a game to look/work correctly.-- The center screen would be your cursor point. With dual Monitor u can forget games.. you'll just be playing it on one of your screens.

    I just bought the Samsung 243t (24 inch WideScreen).
    Unless one of these guys giving you advice has actually worked/played a game on one, then Don't listen to them.

    24" WIDESCREEN is THE WAY to go.
    There is NOTHING like it in the gaming world.

    As far as whether to get the Apple or the Sony....
    Forget the Apple... This article states that they actually use the exact same LCD panel as the Samsung. The Samsung 24" Widescreen Review from GAME PC

    CompUSA has the Samsung 24" for $1,899, which is the cheapest I've found.

    And for anyone who has gone Widescreen, they will tell you the same.. You will never go back.

    Just do what I did and get it..
    I now run my 24" off of the DVI output from my ATI X800,
    and run my "old" 21" Sony Trinitron CRT off of the Analog output.
    I have dual Monitor when I'm working (great for Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Premeire, 3DSMax), and play Games on my Widescreen (UNBELIEVABLE for HalfLife2, FarCry, Unreal 2004, Painkiller, StarWars Battlefront)...etc..

    You won't be sorry w/ a Widescreen.
  • November 24th, 2004, 03:23 PM
    sinhvien
    I will not say that money is not an issue because it is, however, it's flexible if you know what I mean. The apple caught my eyes because of it's design, beauty, and performance. I stood atleast 10 minutes at the store looking at it, still winning me over than the other Sony ones at Fry's. I must have whatever that caught my eyes!!

    I don't think it should mater if I went ahead and buy the 30 inch with the NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL to power it.
  • November 24th, 2004, 10:02 AM
    fosin
    Steve Jobs may occasionaly drive by and throw eggs at your house, but other than that it will work for you. People I know that are using them are very happy with them. If the color matching software mentioned isn't an issue for you, then you're good to go. It's helpful software if you care about color matching. But even when using color matching software, I always check my Pantone swatches before sending to a print shop.

    Is there a particular reason why you want the Apple insead of one from another maker? The others seem to be little cheaper, does the Apple have better specs or warranty?
  • November 23rd, 2004, 10:28 PM
    sinhvien
    So, do you guys have any comments about me using this apple monitor with a pc?
  • November 23rd, 2004, 08:34 PM
    PresterJohn
    Quote Originally Posted by italiamodena575
    y does everyone on this bored keep bashing apple... it gets sooo annoying
    i merely quoted the review by PC World. i did not bash apple...so stop generalizing that everyone on this board is bashing apple. do us all a favor and get your so called 'facts' straight.

    actually, the fact that apple doesn't make the adjustment software available for windows users to be a rather short-sighted one. in typical apple arrogrance, they're deliberately thumbing their noses at the potential PC market. yay...more intelligent thinking for a company that is fighting to keep what marketshare they have. yes, that is an apple bash.

    Quote Originally Posted by italiamodena575
    it runs just as good on windows. the only thing is no adjustments which they said you will not need
    they won't need?!? are you joking?

    the fact that a lot of the apple display adjustment controls aren't available for PC (windows) users is a significant deal. or don't you think if you're a photoshop user that you would want to adjust the color temps to match the color print work you might be doing???

    if apple is making those adjustment controls available for apple users, why wouldn't PC users doing graphics work, etc also need or want the same controls??! your inane reasoning is just as silly as the yahoos over at apple. yes, i'm bashing apple some more!

    i would think that if someone spends over $2000 they would want to know the shortcomings about a product BEFORE they buy it. your opinion is *so* subjective that it isn't very helpful for those who would like a more objective view.
  • November 23rd, 2004, 06:45 PM
    italiamodena575
    Quote Originally Posted by PresterJohn
    you must either own apple stock or your reading comprehension needs work... the image might be good (if you're running os X) but everything else is so-so.

    http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,117967,00.asp

    quoted from above:
    Unfortunately for Windows users, Apple streamlined useful adjustments right out of the design. It has no physical adjustments but tilt, and the only screen adjustment is for brightness. Contrast, color balance, and all other screen adjustments are tucked away in the Mac OS, where PC users can't get at them. It may be acceptable for professional users who make adjustments only within specific programs, like Adobe Photoshop, but for the average Windows PC user, it's probably a nonstarter.

    Apple doesn't offer much in the way of help, either. The parts and labor warranty runs for a scant year, and tech support is a stingy 12 hours for the first 90 days only. Of course, when the only buttons correspond to "brighter," "darker," and "on/off," there's only so much tech support you could need.


    Upshot: With crisp text and gorgeous color, this is a great display. But it doesn't make the crossover from Apple to Windows well.
    y does everyone on this bored keep bashing apple... it gets sooo annoying

    it runs just as good on windows. the only thing is no adjustments which they said you will not need
  • November 23rd, 2004, 06:20 PM
    fosin
    The both seem nice, but shop around before you buy at places like www.monitoroutlet.com or http://resellerratings.dealtime.com/. If you're wanting HD A/V functions built-in, I know LG makes a HDTV model...other makers probably have similar.

    I can see why a 23" widescreen has caught your eye (...and wallet), they make a big difference. I have a 19 & 18 dual setup and the 23 I tried was more functional, especially with screen hogs like Flash and Premiere (Don't have to stretch the screens out manually and no big black line in the middle). Don't know if I could justify the cost since it's basically just a 19" stretched out to 16x9, but if my company was buying it...

    Good luck...
  • November 23rd, 2004, 05:22 PM
    sinhvien
    Darn, maybe I forgot to mention this before. But I'm planning to use a PC with this apple monitor. What's your take on that?
  • November 23rd, 2004, 02:49 PM
    PresterJohn
    Quote Originally Posted by italiamodena575
    get the apple

    Pc world said it gave the best picture they have ever seen
    you must either own apple stock or your reading comprehension needs work... the image might be good (if you're running os X) but everything else is so-so.

    http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/artic...,117967,00.asp

    quoted from above:
    Unfortunately for Windows users, Apple streamlined useful adjustments right out of the design. It has no physical adjustments but tilt, and the only screen adjustment is for brightness. Contrast, color balance, and all other screen adjustments are tucked away in the Mac OS, where PC users can't get at them. It may be acceptable for professional users who make adjustments only within specific programs, like Adobe Photoshop, but for the average Windows PC user, it's probably a nonstarter.

    Apple doesn't offer much in the way of help, either. The parts and labor warranty runs for a scant year, and tech support is a stingy 12 hours for the first 90 days only. Of course, when the only buttons correspond to "brighter," "darker," and "on/off," there's only so much tech support you could need.


    Upshot: With crisp text and gorgeous color, this is a great display. But it doesn't make the crossover from Apple to Windows well.
  • November 22nd, 2004, 10:56 PM
    italiamodena575
    get the apple

    Pc world said it gave the best picture they have ever seen
  • November 22nd, 2004, 10:45 PM
    sinhvien
    Well, the thing is, I think it's really necessary if you get a real life look at these monitors. The Apple 23' inch still winning my taste, but I would have to stop by Fry's to take a look at their 23' Sony.

    A projector will not be an option.

    Any links to offers, rebates to these screens would be great!
  • November 16th, 2004, 10:38 PM
    proffit
    if you had to get one id say the sony. but i would suggest possibly a 21" lcd or 2. or possibly a projector have a 2 metre wide screen displayed at 1024 on the nearest wall. but if it is a must get hte sony.
  • November 16th, 2004, 10:12 PM
    PresterJohn
    Quote Originally Posted by sinhvien
    I have a 17 inch wide screen laptop, and it's the best thing that ever happen to me... Once you go wide screen, you will never go back...

    But then again, I use it mostly for graphics editing, web developing, music, and all time favorite, Microsoft Outlook 2003. Have you experience outlook with a widescreen? Never know until you have...


    So, any links you guys want to recommend me to?
    are you kidding me, outlook in wide-screen is supposed to be impressive?

    well i that case, you haven't seen an app in 3840x1024 resolution. i sometimes run excel in that mode and i don't think a single wide-screen can match that.

    not sure what links you are looking for?
  • November 16th, 2004, 10:06 PM
    sinhvien
    I have a 17 inch wide screen laptop, and it's the best thing that ever happen to me... Once you go wide screen, you will never go back...

    But then again, I use it mostly for graphics editing, web developing, music, and all time favorite, Microsoft Outlook 2003. Have you experience outlook with a widescreen? Never know until you have...


    So, any links you guys want to recommend me to?
  • November 16th, 2004, 09:59 PM
    PresterJohn
    Quote Originally Posted by EpyonMelee
    it uses 16:9 which is what i have on the laptop.

    let me tell you, if feels so much better on the eyes.
    it's all relative. [shrug]

    watching anything on a LARGER screen is bound to be easier on the eyes assuming interpolation isn't too bad. fyi...i run 1280x1024 on each of my three 18" LCD panels and i don't have any eyestrain problems.
  • November 16th, 2004, 09:55 PM
    EpyonMelee
    it uses 16:9 which is what i have on the laptop.

    let me tell you, if feels so much better on the eyes.
  • November 16th, 2004, 09:54 PM
    PresterJohn
    Quote Originally Posted by mazdarx7-64
    Because they are BIG. A buddy of mine has a 22 inch flat screen CRT that is sweet. It can be a TV replacement with a tuner card.
    yeah but there's a bit of difference between a single large 20-22" display and having a wide-screen display.

    the wide-screen display uses a 'weird' (non-standard) aspect ratio and unless you're using it mostly to watch multimedia video/movies, you're probably better off using 2-3 displays combined together instead, IMO.

    besides, watching a dvd movie on a 18-19" LCD isn't exactly a small picture either. it ain't letterbox size but if you're using your PC to primarily watch movies, then you shouldn't have a PC at all.
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