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  • June 15th, 2010, 05:08 PM
    SiliconJon
    Uri Avnery: Who is Afraid of a Real Inquiry?

    If a real Commission of Inquiry had been set up (instead of the pathetic excuse for a commission), here are some of the questions it should have addressed:

    1. What is the real aim of the Gaza Strip blockade?

    2. If the aim is to prevent the flow of arms into the Strip, why are only 100 products allowed in (as compared to the more than 12 thousand products in an average Israeli supermarket)?

    3. Why is it forbidden to bring in chocolate, toys, writing material, many kinds of fruits and vegetables (and why cinnamon but not coriander)?

    4. What is the connection between the decision to forbid the import of construction materials for the replacement or repair of the thousands of buildings destroyed or damaged during the Cast Lead operation and the argument that they may serve Hamas for building bunkers – when more than enough materials for this purpose are brought into the Strip through the tunnels?

    5. Is the real aim of the blockade to turn the lives of the 1.5 million human beings in the Strip into hell, in the hope of inducing them to overthrow the Hamas regime?

    6. Since this has not happened, but – on the contrary – Hamas has become stronger during the three years of the blockade, did the government ever entertain second thoughts on this matter?

    7. Has the blockade been imposed in the hope of freeing the captured Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit?

    8. If so, has the blockade contributed anything to the realization of this aim, or has it been counter-productive?

    9. Why does the Israeli government refuse to exchange Shalit for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, when Hamas agrees to such a deal?

    10. Is it true that the US government has imposed a veto on the exchange of prisoners, on the grounds that it would strengthen Hamas?

    11. Has there been any discussion in our government about fulfilling its undertaking in the Oslo agreement - to enable and encourage the development of the Gaza port - in a way that would prevent the passage of arms?

    12. Why does the Israeli government declare again and again that the territorial waters of the Gaza strip are part of Israel’s own territorial waters, and that ships entering them “infringe on Israeli sovereignty”, contrary to the fact that the Gaza Strip was never annexed to Israel and that Israel officially announced in 2006 that it had “separated” itself from it?

    13. Why has the Attorney General’s office declared that the peace activists captured on the high seas, who had no intention whatsoever of entering Israel, had “tried to enter Israel illegally”, and brought them before a judge for the extension of their arrest under the law that concerns “illegal entry into Israel”?

    14. Who is responsible for these contradictory legal claims, when the Israeli government argues one minute that Israel has “separated itself from the Gaza Strip” and that the “occupation there has come to an end” – and the next minute claims sovereignty over the coastal waters of the Strip?


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  • July 4th, 2009, 04:39 AM
    MegalosSkylaki
    This will create a refugee problem from Gaza.
  • July 2nd, 2009, 09:43 PM
    cyphen
    That's one view... as i understand it, the land was bought and paid for from its justifiable owners. Include the fact that Jews have been present - although not always in political control of - that land for more than 3200 years, i think it makes a strong case for israel. Also throw in the religious demand of muslims to destroy the jews, as well as not only the sanction of, but the glorification of the use of deceit and violence to attain its goals, i find it very difficult to have any trust in the muslim case against israel.

    If the jewish people have one land to call home in all the world, that land is israel, and has been for millennia. Palestinians and other involved arabic countries have continually refused to accept any kind of compromise that would legitimize Israel in any way. Prior to the formation of Israel, the land which is now israel as well as the palestinian territories were part of the ottoman empire, captured by the british.

    The furthest i can concede at this time without further knowledge is that indeed the British Empire was given control of the areas of the Ottoman Empire by the League of Nations after WWI. Promises were made to both sides, but not for ALL of the land - each side would get some of the land - even if there was a misunderstanding by either or both sides that they would get ALL of the land. The british eventually turned it over to the UN after WWII, and after failing to find a solution that would satisfy both sides. The UN offered a two state solution, which the arabs refused. The Jews accepted, and the arabs attacked, and have continued to do so ever since.
  • July 2nd, 2009, 08:32 PM
    pickel
    Quote Originally Posted by cyphen View Post
    I have to disagree, pickel... Gaza is under blockade BECAUSE people incessently shot rockets and acted as suicide bombers, and other agressions and threats against israel's existence, including the six day war. This is a determined enemy of israel and the jews, and crying foul for the agressions they started is ludicrous.
    From my perception of history, the lands which are now the Israeli state were relieved from the previous owners quite illegally and with outside help, had the power to retain control. And we never ambushed the British way back when.
  • July 2nd, 2009, 04:11 PM
    cyphen
    Quote Originally Posted by pickel View Post
    "Gaza has been under Israeli blockade since 2007, when Hamas gained control of the government. The Free Gaza Movement has breached the blockade five times since August 2008."

    And the Israeli's wonder why these people shoot rockets and give their lives.
    I have to disagree, pickel... Gaza is under blockade BECAUSE people incessently shot rockets and acted as suicide bombers, and other agressions and threats against israel's existence, including the six day war. This is a determined enemy of israel and the jews, and crying foul for the agressions they started is ludicrous.
  • July 2nd, 2009, 03:30 PM
    Theophylact
    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Gimme that! */Shreds Epi's tinfoil hat into shiny confetti*
    No, no. He needs a tinfoil hat; the aliens are obviously getting to his brain.
  • July 2nd, 2009, 03:25 PM
    Tramp429
  • July 2nd, 2009, 01:30 PM
    Toadman
    Gimme that! */Shreds Epi's tinfoil hat into shiny confetti*
  • July 2nd, 2009, 11:33 AM
    Epidemic
    they probably killed Wacko Jacko to cover up the planed Eastern Mediterranean scandal
  • July 2nd, 2009, 11:21 AM
    GroundZero3
    Your asking a question of stations that feels every single minute should be dedicated to Micheal Jackson now.....
  • July 2nd, 2009, 10:32 AM
    SiliconJon
    Are we getting objective news in USA--or just pretty news?]
    Neither - our "work" TV takes turns on all the major news stations and they're nothing but tabloids anymore. But is it the news that drives the public, or the public that drives the news? I see it more to the latter, but not completely absent of the former, as it is more a reflection of society, which is a sad affair to say the least in so many ways.
  • July 1st, 2009, 10:59 PM
    pickel
    Quote Originally Posted by MegalosSkylaki View Post
    Differeing accounts of Greek-flagged (?) ship being stopped by US Navy, Cyprus authorities, Isreali Navy, seized (?)...

    Why is this not being covered by any major news sources?

    Are we getting objective news in USA--or just pretty news?

    MegalosSkylaki

    McKinney still held on ship of activists detained by Israel | ajc.com

    VOA News - Israel Says Settlement Deal with US Closer

    Aid ship expected to dock at Gaza Tuesday _English_Xinhua

    Report: Israeli Navy board aid ship with Irish citizens onboard | IOL

    http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main...46410&cat_id=1
    "Gaza has been under Israeli blockade since 2007, when Hamas gained control of the government. The Free Gaza Movement has breached the blockade five times since August 2008."

    And the Israeli's wonder why these people shoot rockets and give their lives.
  • July 1st, 2009, 10:24 PM
    MegalosSkylaki

    WTF is Happening in Eastern Mediterranean?

    Differeing accounts of Greek-flagged (?) ship being stopped by US Navy, Cyprus authorities, Isreali Navy, seized (?)...

    Why is this not being covered by any major news sources?

    Are we getting objective news in USA--or just pretty news?

    MegalosSkylaki

    McKinney still held on ship of activists detained by Israel | ajc.com

    VOA News - Israel Says Settlement Deal with US Closer

    Aid ship expected to dock at Gaza Tuesday _English_Xinhua

    Report: Israeli Navy board aid ship with Irish citizens onboard | IOL

    http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main...46410&cat_id=1

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