New build, need advice please.

Ramen · January 5th, 2009, 12:51 AM

Looking at this puppy for quad-core. Just need a suggestion for a nice mobo if think it's worth the CPU.
AMD Phenom 9950 2.6GHz Socket AM2+

And I'd need DDR2 1066 RAM with an AM2+ core right? Or is that just some myth put out there.. lol. Sorry apparently I'm not as knowledgeable about my parts as I thought I was..

pullmyfoot · January 5th, 2009, 01:05 AM

Ok if you must stick to AMD (I like the way you think

), then get a good AM2+ board and wait for the Phenom II line to come out in a bit. Its supposed to be at least as good as Intel's Core 2 Duo and Quad line. However its gonna still lose out to Intel's new Core i7 CPUs.

If you can wait, I suggest you wait a month or two. The Phenom IIs will come out and so will Windows 7. If you cannot wait, then this is what I suggest.

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400 Brisbane 2.8GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core black edition Processor - Processors - Desktops
Mobo: Newegg.com - ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards

The CPU is cheap so it would not really hurt to get a new CPU in 2 months. The motherboard is compatible with the new Phenom IIs so your good there. Then you can experiment with overclocking that black edition 5400+x2. You could easily hit 3ghz+ with that thing. My regular 5200+x2 got to 3ghz +. I'm sure your black edition will manage higher clocks than that.

Oh you might need a decent cooler too
Newegg.com - ZEROtherm ZEN FZ120 120mm CPU Cooler - CPU Fans & Heatsinks

That ends up costing the same as the 6400+ X2 know but you get to use the fan on a new CPU and you get a nice black edition CPU for overclocking.

However its still really best to wait 2 months if you must stick with AMD. I suggest just going for Intel really if you must have it now.

pullmyfoot · January 5th, 2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramen

Looking at this puppy for quad-core. Just need a suggestion for a nice mobo if think it's worth the CPU.
AMD Phenom 9950 2.6GHz Socket AM2+

And I'd need DDR2 1066 RAM with an AM2+ core right? Or is that just some myth put out there.. lol. Sorry apparently I'm not as knowledgeable about my parts as I thought I was..

No you don't. And the money spent over 800 is usually not worth it.

Ramen · January 5th, 2009, 01:11 PM

Can a mod delete that idiots advertising post please..? Doesn't have anything to do with the thread. Anyway.. Should I be trusting any PSU calculators I find on the web? I checked out the one that's one Newegg.com and they are recommending a 600w supply. I used the following config for it:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 65w
Highend Desktop Motherboard
ATi Radeon HD 2900 Series
2GB DDR2 x 2
DVD-RW
7200 RPM 3.5" HD x 2

What worries me a little is that I'm actually using a higher video card so if that calculator is correct I'd want more. wtf..? And with running a 64 core will that be slowed down since I'm only running XP Pro and not a 64-bit OS?

BTW, I went with a lot f your recommendations guys for parts:

Ramen · January 5th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Oh and I've never done any OCing so I'm weary of doing that right off the bat.. lol. If anything some pointers would be great if I decide to go with that lower CPU you suggested and try to OC it to 3.0+ and thanks for the heads up about the Phenom II.

Ramen · January 5th, 2009, 06:20 PM

I was going through and came across a PSU calculator a lot of people seem to be referring to.. I ran some numbers with quad core and it was pushing 800w just without crossfire when with dual core it ran only 500w. So, should I plan for 1000w if in the future I want to throw in a quad core and a second video card? That's what I'm wanting to do in the future and if I can save money now to get a PSU for later then why not right?

EDIT: Had selected Quad Socket thinking they meant Quad Core.. lol..

pullmyfoot · January 6th, 2009, 02:32 AM

NO. That stuff is usually not very accurate. They take into account crappy generic PSUs. If you get a good quality PSU its hard to get over 500W - 600W unless you have 2 very very high powered graphics cards in there. I assure you that system is gonna do 350W tops.

As for overclocking, thats what the cheap CPU is for. It wouldnt hurt if you broke it

. Anyway its quite hard to break it you have to be an idiot to break it. Just make sure your CPU doesnt get over 65 degrees celcius (I think thats 150 F) and you should be fine. Oh and try not to go over 15% of the original CPU V-core (voltage) or you might wear out your CPU real fast.

pullmyfoot · January 6th, 2009, 02:33 AM

BTW there is no one advertising as far as I can see. Perhaps you get those ads below the posts do ya? And in between em? You get those when you don't log in

. And certain posts have google ads below them. The site has to make some money to run ya know

Ramen · January 6th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pullmyfoot

NO. That stuff is usually not very accurate. They take into account crappy generic PSUs. If you get a good quality PSU its hard to get over 500W - 600W unless you have 2 very very high powered graphics cards in there. I assure you that system is gonna do 350W tops.

As for overclocking, thats what the cheap CPU is for. It wouldnt hurt if you broke it

. Anyway its quite hard to break it you have to be an idiot to break it. Just make sure your CPU doesnt get over 65 degrees celcius (I think thats 150 F) and you should be fine. Oh and try not to go over 15% of the original CPU V-core (voltage) or you might wear out your CPU real fast.

Alright I'll take the into consideration.

Thanks for all the help. Oh and I think a mod deleted the post. There was one from an account with only 3 posts advertising for some DVD ripper program. I know about the ads before and after posts.. hehe.

pullmyfoot · January 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM

I do many builds for people and almost always I use a 370W PC Power and Cooling PSU. Good brand

For more powerful gaming builds I step up to the 500W version of the PSU. Never fails

I still really do strongly advise you to wait a month or two if you must do AMD though.