Thread: I7 rig
May 1st, 2009, 08:36 PM #1
Okay I know how much you guys like doing this
My uncle wants a new computer he i running a p3 1ghz with 128mb ram so he finally thinks its time to upgrade
Budget is about $3000 but the cheaper you can get it without killing performance will be nice....
He wants a couple of screens 24"+ which needs to fit into the budget.
He would like something fast for editing, multi-tasking, a little gaming. Large storage is a must! (at least 1tb) Will need a case, also add in a cpu cooler as I plan to overclock it.
[I have a basic list will post with links shortly]
May 1st, 2009, 09:48 PM #2
Newegg.com - Vigor Monsoon III LT Dual 120mm Fan CPU Cooler Socket 1366 Ready - CPU Fans & Heatsinks
Newegg.com - Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
(or you can go to Tankguys and get the better stepping D0 for slightly more)
Newegg.com - Foxconn BloodRage GTI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
Newegg.com - EVGA 132-BL-E758-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
Newegg.com - Foxconn BloodRage LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards
(all depending on how far you want to clock)
Newegg.com - G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
Newegg.com - OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Power Supplies
$100 ($70 after MIR with free flash drive)
Newegg.com - EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
$65 free shipping
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
(personally, I'd get a 640Gb Black edition for a main boot drive, then use the 1Tb for storage and such.)
Newegg.com - LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners
$25 (free shipping)
Newegg.com - Acer H233Hbmid Black 23" 5ms HDMI Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 40000:1 (ACM) Built in Speakers - LCD Monitors
(look at the specs)
Total: $1650 with no rebates/shipping factored in.(used the price of the EVGA board) With 2x LCD's. Really there is no need to spend anymore then that, that will handle everything you could ever throw at it. If your really gonna be clocking, you'd benefit from a water setup, which is still well within your budget.
May 1st, 2009, 10:07 PM #3
Wow cheers karma All looks good will proberly go with bigger lcd's though (I would get one of those personaly). Most likely be going with the evga board as I had that on the list anyways.
Water cooling would be a valid option, but I dont know much about it other than you saying the kits are useless and buying the pump, reservoir etc seperately is always best. I want to try and get atleast 3.7Ghz
Does that PSU have enough room for one (or mabye 2 (which is proberly going to need 1kw)) more 275 in the future?
The idea of the 3k budget was for however less I get it, the more I get towards my i7 system
Last edited by Aaron_8015; May 1st, 2009 at 10:30 PM.
May 1st, 2009, 10:43 PM #4
Hmm, well 3.7Ghz is doable on air with the D0 stepping for sure. The older stepping it's possible, but no promises.
If you want me to make a water setup list I can, no issues.
And that PSU will support only one 275. I wouldn't put 2 on it personally.
(so you get a I7 rig to?)
May 1st, 2009, 11:05 PM #5
A watercooling list would be great thanks
(so you get a I7 rig to?)
Last edited by Aaron_8015; May 1st, 2009 at 11:15 PM.
May 1st, 2009, 11:40 PM #6
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You read any reviews of that Foxconn motherboard?
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I don't think specs like that are at all anything like what is needed from what you said to start. A little gaming != GTX 275, even if you have $3k to spend."The problem with quotations on the internet is that the sources are hard to verify" - Abraham Lincoln
May 1st, 2009, 11:46 PM #7I don't think specs like that are at all anything like what is needed from what you said to start. A little gaming != GTX 275, even if you have $3k to spend.
Ultimately he wants it to last a few years....
May 1st, 2009, 11:56 PM #8
I'm making the list from Jab-tech, overall they are slightly cheaper then petras.
I want to point out, there are TONS of variables in water setups. Depending on what your cooling, how loud you can tolerate it, how your mounting it, etc.
There are RADS that are made to perform better under low/medium speed fans. (quiet fans) Then there are rads that are made for high pressure fans (loud fans).
Not only that, you can add in different res configs, fittings, tubing, etc. So this is by no means an all inclusive list.
Personally, I like to keep all my water goodies internal. Just so nothing gets bumped or knocked out of place, etc. But that depends on what case you get. There are cases made to fit internal 240mm/360mm RADS. So there are A TON of different options.
Block: Swiftech Apogee GTZ Extreme Performance CPU Waterblock
Swiftech Apogee GTZ Core i7 Hold down plate
Pump: Swiftech MCP 355 12v DC Pump
XSPC - Acrylic Reservoir for Laing DDC
Rad: Swiftech MCR320-QP-K Triple 120mm Radiator
(made for low/medium speed fans)
Fans: Scythe "ULTRA KAZE" 120 x 38 mm Case Fan - Medium - 2000rpm
(these are great fans for RADS. They provide LOTS of pressure. And you can do 3 or 6 depending on what your cooling)
Again, there are lots of things you can change. I like the pump/res combo in one. There is less tubing you have to run. Plus takes up less room in your case also.
May 2nd, 2009, 01:24 AM #9
Karma, also not sure if you noticed (latest Evga email) their releasing the 1.7GB GTX 275's as well... one of those should be very sweet for high res images/displays.
Newegg.com - EVGA 017-P3-1175-AR GeForce GTX 275 1792MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
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May 2nd, 2009, 01:36 PM #10
May 2nd, 2009, 06:49 PM #11Thanks Shy will proberly go with one of those then. The only real undecided factor is the case as he is very picky so he is off hunting for one he likes.....
well anyway I like the way this one looks Newegg.com - RAIDMAX Sirius ATX-701WS Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
May 2nd, 2009, 07:01 PM #12
^^^That case looks okay but from the pictures it looks like you have to leave the front open just to let the air in which is kinda stupid. Will proberly pass on it. Been looking at the thermaltake armour case.
Newegg.com - Thermaltake ArmorPlus(Armor+) VH6000BWS Black Aluminum / Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
Looks nice also has alot of room (which would be good if he goes for water cooling) and from pictures fairly good cable management, but as im overclocking the I7 and most likely graphics card a little too I want as much air as possible to be able to enter.
May 2nd, 2009, 07:10 PM #13
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER COSMOS S RC-1100-KKN1-GP Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
Both of those cases you can fit an internal 260mm rad in.
But by far, the best case for a water setup is the TJ-0x series. My personal favorite is the TJ-07
Newegg.com - SILVERSTONE TJ07-BW Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
But it's pricey.
May 2nd, 2009, 07:13 PM #14^^^That case looks okay but from the pictures it looks like you have to leave the front open just to let the air in which is kinda stupid. Will proberly pass on it. Been looking at the thermaltake armour case.
I would get the mid tower version of that armor case because its cheaper. They both look pretty much the same too.
May 2nd, 2009, 07:17 PM #15
I have the original Armor case with the optional side fan, and love it, so not saying its not a good case or anything, but I know many of Coolermasters cases are also good for air flow, cable management and room.
one I love of theirs and would get if I had the money, as well as if my i7 mobo was a SLI capable one (and had 1 or more Nvidia cards instead of the ATI cards), is this one
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Stacker 830 NVIDIA Edition NV-830-KKN4-GP Black ( Green Mesh) Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
I only wish Coolermaster had the rights to do an ATI themed case as well, they have an nvidia themed 690 case as well. but no ATI themed case
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May 2nd, 2009, 07:21 PM #16not sure though if that case has any Watercooling tubing holes in the back at all?
May 2nd, 2009, 07:25 PM #17
Well as I said at the begining price is not a real problem If he likes it and does the job well he doesnt mind paying for it.
The first case karma linked to is nice and will be considered....
That nvidia stacker also looks good, the green and nvidia logos are a nice touch. Im not object to drilling holes in it..... (most likely will leave the watercooling inside though as he does have kids)
Last edited by Aaron_8015; May 2nd, 2009 at 07:27 PM.
May 2nd, 2009, 07:48 PM #18
I have a stacker 830 (same as the one shy posted, but different colors) and I gotta say, it's really a awesome case, but not for water coolers IMO.
I have a triple rad in mine, but I couldn't find a better place to put it without heavly modding the case. So I just sat it on the bottom of the case.
The Coolermaster 690 was actually easier to put the triple rad in, because it was easy to mount to the top.
Pics are worth a 1000 word right?
(I should also mention setup of the stacker took ~3-4hours longer then the 690)
And just for another comparison, I found a pic of the TJ-07 with a liquid system in it.
See the difference?
May 2nd, 2009, 08:07 PM #19Pics are worth a 1000 word right?
That TJ-07 looks like it has alot more room in it when you see components in there. (especially down the bottom)
So that is the new fav. Will be deciding between that and armour case (wether or not he will be having watercooling)
Im still open to suggestions of anything else....
I will most likely take pics of the building/finished product when he gets paid in a couple of weeks...
Already ordered one of those monitors karma linked to just to give it a whirl and see if its big enough. If not he wants 3.....
Edit:- Just to add your comp looks kewl.......^^^
Last edited by Aaron_8015; May 2nd, 2009 at 08:12 PM.
May 2nd, 2009, 09:25 PM #20
Those monitors are great from what I've seen of them. My bro ordered one a couple weeks ago, and it looked pretty nice. (only saw WoW on it though)
Just the setup of the TJ makes it superior to most cases if you water cool, IMO of course. There are a hand full of others I can probably dig up if you want some more options.
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