Gaming COmputer Build HElp first!

[gangsta21]

WEll im a first time posters well basically i need someone to help me build a gaming computer for around 400-500 i play games such as left 4 dead and etc I just want a gaming computer that will be good for everything but epseically games i also want a intel processor i dont like amd for some reason lol
Bottom Line-Gaming Computer 400-500 Parts from new egg! And basically need one taht will be fit for 2009 Thx in advance!

[cksboy15]

Is that with or without an Operating System?

[pullmyfoot]

The list I put together is if you need an OS. If you can stretch to just over $500 this is a good combo to look at

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
ram: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Desktop Memory
graphics: Newegg.com - HIS H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
hard drive: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Case: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
PSU: Newegg.com - Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
DVD drive: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

Dont get Vista now. Windows 7 is coming out really soon. I suggest you either wait til 22nd Oct when it comes out that would be ideal.

[pullmyfoot]

i also want a intel processor i dont like amd for some reason lol

in your price range, AMD trashes Intel at value. You could go for Intel, but you would be getting a lot less computer than you could have gotten.

[gangsta21]

The list I put together is if you need an OS. If you can stretch to just over $500 this is a good combo to look at

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
ram: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Desktop Memory
graphics: Newegg.com - HIS H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
hard drive: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Case: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
PSU: Newegg.com - Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
DVD drive: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

Dont get Vista now. Windows 7 is coming out really soon. I suggest you either wait til 22nd Oct when it comes out that would be ideal.

is that the best you can get me?

[Imperion1]

You asked for a $400-$500 system, maybe if you said about $650 pullmyfoot could have given you an Intel setup.
If you want the best system build, up your budget to at least $1000.

[gangsta21]

You asked for a $400-$500 system, maybe if you said about $650 pullmyfoot could have given you an Intel setup.
If you want the best system build, up your budget to at least $1000.

LOL i meant to say like are those really the best parts cause i read some reviews and something lit on fire!

[pullmyfoot]

LOL i meant to say like are those really the best parts cause i read some reviews and something lit on fire!

what on earth is that supposed to mean.

and yes that is the best I can give you. A low end budget = a low end computer. Then again, that setup is not something I would really call low end.. Its pretty dang fast. It will put Crysis on all high settings @ 1650x1080 I assure you.

If you want Intel, you will be looking at an E5300 with that budget. It loses to the AMD CPU in performance though. Anyhows, AMD wins in value in every area between $400 to $1000+. Below that is Intel's Atom and above is i7.

If you could spend another hundred bucks, you could upgrade to a faster Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition and a NVIDIA GTX260 core216 or something along those lines.

[gangsta21]

what on earth is that supposed to mean.

and yes that is the best I can give you. A low end budget = a low end computer. Then again, that setup is not something I would really call low end.. Its pretty dang fast. It will put Crysis on all high settings @ 1650x1080 I assure you.

If you want Intel, you will be looking at an E5300 with that budget. It loses to the AMD CPU in performance though. Anyhows, AMD wins in value in every area between $400 to $1000+. Below that is Intel's Atom and above is i7.

If you could spend another hundred bucks, you could upgrade to a faster Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition and a NVIDIA GTX260 core216 or something along those lines.

How much would a better case be 30 more bucks? and screens are like a hudner and i will need speakers and keyboard and mouse as well! do u think i could spend all togehr 700?

[pullmyfoot]

$700 is a bit of a stretch. You only have just under $200 to play with for a screen, speakers, KB + M. If you could spend $750-$800 that would be perfect. If not we will have to cut some corners.

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
ram: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Desktop Memory
graphics: Newegg.com - HIS H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
hard drive: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Case: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
PSU: Newegg.com - Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
DVD drive: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

Dont get Vista now. Windows 7 is coming out really soon. I suggest you either wait til 22nd Oct when it comes out that would be ideal.

Screen: Newegg.com - LG W1952TQ-TF Black 19" 2ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 10000:1DCR with HDCP Support - LCD Monitors
Keyboard: Newegg.com - Logitech 967740-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys USB Standard Internet 350 USB Keyboard - Keyboards
Mouse: Newegg.com - RAZER Salmosa Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB 1800 dpi Gaming Mouse - Mouse
Speakers: Newegg.com - Creative Inspire A200 2.1 Speakers - Speakers

[gangsta21]

$700 is a bit of a stretch. You only have just under $200 to play with for a screen, speakers, KB + M. If you could spend $750-$800 that would be perfect. If not we will have to cut some corners.

CPU: Newegg.com - AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
mobo: Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
ram: Newegg.com - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-4GBPQ - Desktop Memory
graphics: Newegg.com - HIS H485FN512P Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards
hard drive: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Case: Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case - Computer Cases
PSU: Newegg.com - Antec earthwatts EA430 430W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Power Supplies
DVD drive: Newegg.com - SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

Dont get Vista now. Windows 7 is coming out really soon. I suggest you either wait til 22nd Oct when it comes out that would be ideal.

Screen: Newegg.com - LG W1952TQ-TF Black 19" 2ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 10000:1DCR with HDCP Support - LCD Monitors
Keyboard: Newegg.com - Logitech 967740-0403 Black 104 Normal Keys 8 Function Keys USB Standard Internet 350 USB Keyboard - Keyboards
Mouse: Newegg.com - RAZER Salmosa Black 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB 1800 dpi Gaming Mouse - Mouse
Speakers: Newegg.com - Creative Inspire A200 2.1 Speakers - Speakers

so your saying this is all i need?! I also dont need a nice mouse it can be a regular one!

[KarmaKiller]

A nice mouse makes all the difference in FPS games. If that's the games you mainly play, then it's worth it to invest in one.
With that said though, that's always something you can get later on, maybe for a birthday/holiday gift. I'd probably invest all you can in the "core" PC, then pick up the other pieces to finish it off later.

[gangsta21]

A nice mouse makes all the difference in FPS games. If that's the games you mainly play, then it's worth it to invest in one.
With that said though, that's always something you can get later on, maybe for a birthday/holiday gift. I'd probably invest all you can in the "core" PC, then pick up the other pieces to finish it off later.

Hmmm can you show build me a setup about this core pc you mean with alot of cores? ive had good things about you =P!

[pullmyfoot]

by core PC he means the essential parts that are harder to upgrade, not more cores ion your CPU. Those parts generally refer to your power supply, your motherboard, your CPU hard drive, dvd drive and your computer case. Usually when you get those things thjey generally stay the same even if you upgrade your computer. The easiest things to upgrade would be the ram and graphics card as they are a simple case of plug and play, so those can be upgraded at a later date to something faster. The CPU is also sort of plug and play but its slightly more complicated having to take off the cooler and clean it and etc.

[cksboy15]

A bit cheaper option for PSU and mobo
Newegg.com - MSI 785GTM-E45 AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - AMD Motherboards
Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power Plus RS-500-PCAR-A3 500W ATX12V V2.3 Power Supply - Power Supplies
that saves you about $25 after rebates.

I use that PSU and msi makes a decent board. I used to use them a lot in the past and I haven't had of issues with them.

then we could throw in a 4830 instead of a 4850 and save a little more which will save another $15
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100265HDMI Radeon HD 4830 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

just my 2 cents

[ryukenblaze]

Here is a partslist im using for an intel quadcore pc with a radeon 4850 for 800. some of the parts have been discontinued from newegg but there are simarlily priced ones to keep it in the ballfield of 800.

1
OCZ Gold 4GB(2 x 2GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820227199
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
-$7.00 Instant
$49.99
$42.991
ECS Black Series P45T-A ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #:N82E16813135093
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$99.99 1
HIS Radeon HD 4850 H485FN1GP Video Card
Item #:N82E16814161275
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy
-$5.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$119.99
$114.99 1
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders
Item #:N82E16832116488
Return Policy: Software Return Policy

$99.991
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor
Item #:N82E16819115055
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$169.99
$159.991
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 750GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive
Item #:N82E16822148445
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$79.991
hec X-Power Pro 600 600W Continuous @ 40°C Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817339025
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$49.991
nMEDIAPC ZE-C68 All-in-one USB 2.0 Card Reader w/ USB Port
Item #:N82E16820132016
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$9.991
SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223F
Item #:N82E16827151171
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$25.991
LOGISYS Computer Area 51 CS51WBK Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
Item #:N82E16811148030
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$3.00 Instant
$39.99
$36.991
Open Box: Hanns·G HW-173DBB Black 17" 8ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
Item #:N82E16824254018R
Return Policy: Open Box Refund Only Return Policy
-$56.00 Instant
$129.99
$73.991
LITE-ON Black Wired Keyboard
Item #:N82E16823107119
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy

$6.99Grand Total: $801.88

[Aaron_8015]

Yikes..... I dont know where to start with picking things wrong with that list....

To begin with there is no point buying vista with windows 7 just around the corner.

No point spending $80 on a PSU when you can spend half that, on one that will do the job (also I would never use a HEC PSU).....

$160 is expensive for a HDD you can get a 640GB caviar black for half the cost! (not to mention will be a little faster).

Some people don't have a problem with ECS (budget manufacturer) but I find them cheap and unreliable......

Overall you could spend the same amount on an AMD system that will blow that away.....

Just my .02

[gangsta21]

Yikes..... I dont know where to start with picking things wrong with that list....

To begin with there is no point buying vista with windows 7 just around the corner.

No point spending $80 on a PSU when you can spend half that, on one that will do the job (also I would never use a HEC PSU).....

$160 is expensive for a HDD you can get a 640GB caviar black for half the cost! (not to mention will be a little faster).

Some people don't have a problem with ECS (budget manufacturer) but I find them cheap and unreliable......

Overall you could spend the same amount on an AMD system that will blow that away.....

Just my .02

I appreicaite your help guys but i was hoping someone will get me anotehr ste up for a comptuer because the 2nd guyss was messed up btw is window 7 good?!

[pullmyfoot]

oops

[KarmaKiller]

No, he was referring to the guy with 15 posts.

Simmer down