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October 13th, 2009, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying JJ BTW: What is your budget and reason for this rig ( how intense games )? | $600 and for games such as L4D |
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October 13th, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying JJ Both, The Corsair HX1000 is rated at 1000W. Most reviews say this is not all it will do continuously.
Also, you have a good builder helping you here. Aaron will keep you on track. | So your saying most reviews will be the same? Cause there saying the Saphire is better by the Crossfire has better reviews |
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October 14th, 2009, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gangsta21 How are you so sure the one you chose is better? Have you tried both? | have you?
seriously though, the Regor has a bit less Cache Memory on the Chip, and Does not incorporate a Level 3 Cache either, not a huge loss except in benchmarks in my opinion.
both are Dual cores and Run at the same clock speeds.
the only single major advantage the 7850 has over the Regor X2 is that its a Black Edition.
Which means its a Fully Unlocked CPU (Clock Multipliers are unlocked, for Overclocking, which basically translates into more options and flexibility when overclocking, thats the only difference between a Black and non black edition AMD CPU)
on the Regor's defense, it runs at cooler temps than the 7850, its a 65W CPU vs the 7850 thats a 95W CPU.
unless you plan on doing some good overclocking, its a no brainer for $20 less which one to get.
you yourself mentioned Quote: |
What? umm Well I'm trying to go on the cheaper route =P
| so with that said, I'd go for that CPU instead, Regor X2.
nevermind I misread your post and Nicks post, I thought you were referring to the AMD CPU's, not the ATI video cards...
even still, the 4850 will beat the 4770.
but like I mentioned, look into those Radeon 5000 Series, 5750 and the higher up 5770's. they effectively replace the 4770, and aside from the Memory Bus Rate of 128-bit, they have similar specifications to the Radeon 4850 and 4870 cards, which should translate into even better performance than the 4770. considering the price range of the 5750, its not a bad deal really.
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October 14th, 2009, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by gangsta21 So your saying most reviews will be the same? Cause there saying the Saphire is better by the Crossfire has better reviews | Crossfire?
I think your getting things confused now.
Crossfire, or as its officially known now as CrossfireX is ATI's implementation of Utilizing Multiple Video cards together to gain better Video performance. or in the cases of their x2 Variant Cards, using 2 GPU's on a single card together, of which you can then run another pair with the first one.
Nvidia has had their SLI technology out for even longer and is similar in how it works.
before either one of these though 3DFX, which Nvidia Bought up when they went bankrupt 7 years ago, used to have a similar concept that was also called SLI, nvidia simply changed the meaning/method of how it is done, and gave it the same name. |
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October 14th, 2009, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gangsta21 So your saying most reviews will be the same? Cause there saying the Saphire is better by the Crossfire has better reviews | An example for this particular power supply. Some parts will get diffrent reviews, some about the same. The way they test ( what applications ) will determine how they do. Some run diffrent applications better than others. A good example of this would be if you want to haul wood, get a truck. If you want to go fast and handle good get a Corvette. The Vet don't haul good and the truck isn't a "performance" machine.
I think Shy answered the question about Crossfire / SLI, but here goes again.
Crossfire is a technology by ATI, like SLI is by NVIDIA.
Saphire is a maker of products, like EVGA, BFG, ASUS, CORSAIR, OCZ, etc...
Your best bet is to go with Aarons reccomendations.
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October 14th, 2009, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyguyXPC have you?
seriously though, the Regor has a bit less Cache Memory on the Chip, and Does not incorporate a Level 3 Cache either, not a huge loss except in benchmarks in my opinion.
both are Dual cores and Run at the same clock speeds.
the only single major advantage the 7850 has over the Regor X2 is that its a Black Edition.
Which means its a Fully Unlocked CPU (Clock Multipliers are unlocked, for Overclocking, which basically translates into more options and flexibility when overclocking, thats the only difference between a Black and non black edition AMD CPU)
on the Regor's defense, it runs at cooler temps than the 7850, its a 65W CPU vs the 7850 thats a 95W CPU.
unless you plan on doing some good overclocking, its a no brainer for $20 less which one to get.
you yourself mentioned
so with that said, I'd go for that CPU instead, Regor X2.
nevermind I misread your post and Nicks post, I thought you were referring to the AMD CPU's, not the ATI video cards...
even still, the 4850 will beat the 4770.
but like I mentioned, look into those Radeon 5000 Series, 5750 and the higher up 5770's. they effectively replace the 4770, and aside from the Memory Bus Rate of 128-bit, they have similar specifications to the Radeon 4850 and 4870 cards, which should translate into even better performance than the 4770. considering the price range of the 5750, its not a bad deal really. | No how is it a no brainer? LOl w/e
but Out of these post can someone set something up for me? Thanks in advance =P |
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October 14th, 2009, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gangsta21 No how is it a no brainer? LOl w/e but Out of these post can someone set something up for me? Thanks in advance =P | Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying JJ An example for this particular power supply. Some parts will get diffrent reviews, some about the same. The way they test ( what applications ) will determine how they do. Some run diffrent applications better than others. A good example of this would be if you want to haul wood, get a truck. If you want to go fast and handle good get a Corvette. The Vet don't haul good and the truck isn't a "performance" machine.
I think Shy answered the question about Crossfire / SLI, but here goes again.
Crossfire is a technology by ATI, like SLI is by NVIDIA.
Saphire is a maker of products, like EVGA, BFG, ASUS, CORSAIR, OCZ, etc... Your best bet is to go with Aarons reccomendations. | just go with that if your not going to pay attention to what people are saying, and trying to teach you. |
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October 14th, 2009, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyguyXPC just go with that if your not going to pay attention to what people are saying, and trying to teach you. | Dude im trying im like lost in all this |
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October 15th, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gangsta21 Dude im trying im like lost in all this | I'm guessing you've know a bit about computers but not too much about the technical details?
Ok, some of the comments have been a bit technical
E.g. Quote:
Crossfire, or as its officially known now as CrossfireX is ATI's implementation of Utilizing Multiple Video cards together to gain better Video performance. or in the cases of their x2 Variant Cards, using 2 GPU's on a single card together, of which you can then run another pair with the first one.
Nvidia has had their SLI technology out for even longer and is similar in how it works.
before either one of these though 3DFX, which Nvidia Bought up when they went bankrupt 7 years ago, used to have a similar concept that was also called SLI, nvidia simply changed the meaning/method of how it is done, and gave it the same name.
| = Crossfire is basically connecting 2 ATI graphics cards (SLI is the Nvidia version, i.e. connecting 2 Nvidia cards)
Like Flying JJ said, Sapphire is a company that makes graphics cards. You need to do some research though. Look at a few reviews for different parts, and any bench tests if there are any (but be careful about reading too much into bench tests, as some tests are more useful than others).
Like everyone's saying, listen to Aaron's advice. But take the parts he's suggested and compare them to other similar parts.
E.g. do a bit of research on graphics cards. A quick search of tomshardware.com compares the 5750 and the 4770 (which further research would show is similar to the 4850, which has been recommended). Then compare prices and decide if you're willing to pay more for the advantages of the 5750.
I remember building my first system off the recommendations of people from here, and I didn't really get it all, so I put the time in and researched it all. SO, in response to your question Quote: |
but Out of these post can someone set something up for me? Thanks in advance =P
| No, but we can suggest parts that we think might fit what your requirements, and you can decide what you want
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October 16th, 2009, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rostock I'm guessing you've know a bit about computers but not too much about the technical details?
Ok, some of the comments have been a bit technical
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= Crossfire is basically connecting 2 ATI graphics cards (SLI is the Nvidia version, i.e. connecting 2 Nvidia cards)
Like Flying JJ said, Sapphire is a company that makes graphics cards. You need to do some research though. Look at a few reviews for different parts, and any bench tests if there are any (but be careful about reading too much into bench tests, as some tests are more useful than others).
Like everyone's saying, listen to Aaron's advice. But take the parts he's suggested and compare them to other similar parts.
E.g. do a bit of research on graphics cards. A quick search of tomshardware.com compares the 5750 and the 4770 (which further research would show is similar to the 4850, which has been recommended). Then compare prices and decide if you're willing to pay more for the advantages of the 5750.
I remember building my first system off the recommendations of people from here, and I didn't really get it all, so I put the time in and researched it all. SO, in response to your question
No, but we can suggest parts that we think might fit what your requirements, and you can decide what you want | Wiat What can't you? Is it because I should choose my self? |
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