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Old July 8th, 2004, 06:25 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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The better processor.

I am upgrading my system. What CPU do you think is faster.

According to THG, the 2.8C is faster in the majority of tests, I am not for or against either company, I just want the faster processor. I am willing to spend no more then $200 for a processor, I am looking just to upgrade the Processor, RAM and motherboard.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040601/index.html
Seems the 2.8C wins most game tests, but the Athlon 64 2800+ was also equipped with single channel DDR.

I will be using the system for mainly multitasking and gaming. The Athlon XP was not very good at multitasking but I am not sure about the 64. Hypertransport and the SSE2 intruction set may help.


Old system is as following.

Pentium 4 2A & 2.4 (120X4=480X5=2400 MHz)
512 MB stick of Elixir PC 2100 - mobo only supports PC 2100 but is oced to 320.
256 MB stick of samsung PC 2700
MSI 845E Max motherboard
Radeon 9800 Pro - Will use on new system
Audigy 2 - will use on new system

The new components if AMD will be

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...131-490&depa=0

The new components if Intel will be

Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...131-484&depa=0

And a 512 stick of Corsair PC 3200 Value for either one.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-479&depa=0

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Old July 8th, 2004, 06:27 PM     #2 (permalink)
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I am upgrading my system. What CPU do you think is faster.

You need to provide more info than that. What components do you have, what are you willing to upgrade, and what is your budget?
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Also, what do you plan on utilizing the system for?

Obviously, the fanboys are going to choose their favorite company, but depending on what you need it for, each processor is good for its respective application.
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I agree with TRB...
If you are going to be getting into video editing and streaming data, Intel offers advantages. If you are a big time gamer, AMD is a bit better, for most games.

Basically, from your additional info edit, it seems like you are talking basically mobo, cpu and ram update. Your uses tend to point toward AMD. If AMD you'll also need a different HS/fan. How much money do you want to spend. I'm beginning to think about my next upgarde, and it will be the AMD-64 path. The news I've read is that the Socket-754 mobos may become orphans, the Socket-940 boards less common, and that AMD will be focusing on the Socket-939 boards... this would give you an upgrade path for your "next" upgrade after this current one.
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hey J..............i think the 754 has quite a bit of life in it.............940 has little or no development planned.........939 is the flagship.

i can't remember where i read this but if i find it i'll post the link

shenkoa..........i'd go for the a64 for gaming...........and a little 64 bit future proofing.

I bought a p4 2.8 ht rig............and took it back (physically)....two days later not impressed with anything it did.............now have a64 3000+ in a decent mid range pc......no complaints
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doddsy,
You may be right re the Socket-754s... I'm looking toward the Socket-939s for my next box, though. Eventually those FX-53s (and their successors) will get cheaper

Shenkoa,
Another consideration is at some point Win64 will get released, maybe by year end-2004 (?) and though even win32 OS/apps run extremely well on AMD-64s, the 64-bit OS/apps are supposed to really take off.
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a64 development

this is not the original ........but it says pretty much the same thing.


yep shenkoa win 64 is worth thinkin about............although it wil only be released as an oem.........i have the xp 64 beta installed on another drive.........fast and stable........64 bit drivers for most bits..........no real 64 bit apps yet

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a64 development

this is not the original ........but it says pretty much the same thing.


yep shenkoa win 64 is worth thinkin about............although it wil only be released as an oem.........i have the xp 64 beta installed on another drive.........fast and stable........64 bit drivers for most bits..........no real 64 bit apps yet

Good article, thx.
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AMD rocks!! No question!
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Shenkoa,
Let's assume for speculation's sake you were to go AMD-64... how much money do you have in your budget? That would help us suggest specific components.
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