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November 2nd, 2004, 11:50 AM
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| What is 90nm on Athlon 64?
I am shopping around and looking to upgrade to a Athlon 64 system. While shopping I have seen some CPU's advertising 90nm and am not sure what that refers to. Any help on that would be appreciated. Also, if I have to choose between 2 of the same chips, one is 939 pin with 512k L2 cache and the other is 754 pin with 1MB L2 cache, which would be better? I have heard that the 939 is better because of upgradeability later, but would the extra cache make a big performance difference? Thanks!
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:25 PM
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By 90nm, they mean that each transitor is 90 nanometers/0.09 microns in size. Generally, the smaller the better.
Socket 754 will be phased out in the future, but that wouldn't stop me from buying it. 939 is a newer socket, so if you want it to last for a long time, you may want to go with a motherboard that uses it. | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:26 PM
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I have heard and read that s939 is better not just because of upgrading in the future, but also because it can overclock a lot better than s754, and it get's a lot higher results. For example... a 2.0GHz s939 will school a 2.2GHz s754 
But.... the best bang for the buck AMD 64 CPU is still the 3000+  | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticFox Socket 754 will be phased out in the future, but that wouldn't stop me from buying it. 939 is a newer socket, so if you want it to last for a long time, you may want to go with a motherboard that uses it. | You may also want to look into DUAL SOCKET mobos 
That way you can get a cheap s754 now, and then a s939 in the future without having to buy a new mobo  | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:28 PM
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So, if the chip does not advertise it, does that mean it is NOT the 90nm and should be avoided over the 90nm variety? Will all 939 pin MOBO's support a 90nm chip? | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:30 PM
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No reason to avoid non-90nm processors (aka 130nm), they will just run cooler and consume less power. | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wakeboarder141 Will all 939 pin MOBO's support a 90nm chip? | yes
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Originally Posted by Wakeboarder141 So, if the chip does not advertise it, does that mean it is NOT the 90nm and should be avoided over the 90nm variety? |
no, it would still 99.99999% be 90nm. I think that all AMD 64s are 90nm | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:31 PM
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probably. you can also look at the name of the processor core...winchester is 90nm and newcastle is 130nm...get the winchester, my 3200+ overclocks like crazy. | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nwo75200 I think that all AMD 64s are 90nm |
not true, newcastle 64s are 130nm | |
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November 2nd, 2004, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by smurffart probably. you can also look at the name of the processor core...winchester is 90nm and newcastle is 130nm...get the winchester, my 3200+ overclocks like crazy. | o $#^7 I thought that Newcaslte was better!
I don't think there are any s754 winchesters, are there?
OK, there are no s754 winchesters... next question... are there any s754 90nm CPUs?
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