Thread: Barton or Sempron?
April 9th, 2005, 06:53 AM #1
Barton or Sempron?
Yet another simple question from Ocher towers!!
Is there a Sempron that will out perform a Barton XP3000+??A SALMON DAY = The experience of spending an entire day swimming upstream only to get screwed and die.
April 9th, 2005, 08:18 AM #2
the barton is slightly better. The new sempron line has lower benchmarks than the athlon XPs...except the 3100+, a nice new addition to the AMD family.
whoops, a sempron 3100+ (socket 754) would beat any Athlon XP-Space
April 9th, 2005, 09:50 AM #3Originally Posted by SpaceSquadWork hard to become not to acquire. I didn't work hard to win a million dollars, I worked hard to become Winston Cup Champion. Alan Kulwicki 1992
April 9th, 2005, 10:02 AM #4
The AMD Athlon XP 3000+ outperforms all the Socket A, AMD Semprons.AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @ 2GHz
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April 9th, 2005, 01:18 PM #5
SpaceSquad, twistedbrntucker, Messiah89..........Thank you all for your responses. I have been out all day and have only just read them.
I was indeed comparing SktA chips and clearly the Athlon is king in this area. However, the comments regarding the skt754 Sempron open up a hole new can of worms!! Is it really worth investing in a 754 board?? Would'nt it make more sense to move straight to 939 and go for an A64??A SALMON DAY = The experience of spending an entire day swimming upstream only to get screwed and die.
April 9th, 2005, 01:25 PM #6
It is absolutely workth investing in a socket 754 or socket 939. As for which of those two sockets to choose is a more difficult question. If you get a socket 754 system you pretty much have to accept that when you upgrade your processor you will also have to upgrade your motherboard. This may or may not be the case with socket 939 (depending on if AMD ups the memory speeds to ddr4000 and the like). If, however, you don't upgrade very often (i.e. every few years), then it doesn't matter because both boards will be obsolete.
It also depends on your budget of course.
April 9th, 2005, 02:43 PM #7
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April 9th, 2005, 02:48 PM #8
well, if you're gonna go s754...might aswell just get an a64 2800+, as they aren't much more money at all, and perform better.-Space
April 9th, 2005, 03:03 PM #9
A Sempron 3100+ socket 754 would be a great buy. but, looks like the Sempron socket 939s should be out in the next few months if you can wait. The Sempron 3100s are supposed to be good overclockers though.
but the socket A semprons are based on the T-Bred B cores i believe. The Barton cores have more L2 cache and out performe the T-Bred cores."Life moves pretty fast, if you dont stop to look around once in a while, you could miss it." -FB
April 9th, 2005, 03:41 PM #10
Well I dont really see the point in splashing out on a 754 board.
If I am going to buy a new mobo anyway, would it not make more sense to go with a NForce4 board and pick up a cheaper A64??
Anyone know when the Venice core is coming out in the UK?
So much to consider, so much money burning a hole in my wallet.................life is hardA SALMON DAY = The experience of spending an entire day swimming upstream only to get screwed and die.
April 9th, 2005, 03:54 PM #11
All vendors will sell their old Athlon 64's before they get the new ones. Even in the U.S., they won't be out for a while on major vendors like Newegg.
April 9th, 2005, 06:05 PM #12Originally Posted by Reather
Acording to AMD's roadmap, the new Athlon64s and Semprons should be out soon.
so, buy a 939 board and if you need to save money and dont have a need for a 64bit OS, then go with a new sempron. you get all the goodies of the Athlon64 without the 64bit stuff. I would look for the new 939s in may or June."Life moves pretty fast, if you dont stop to look around once in a while, you could miss it." -FB
April 9th, 2005, 06:09 PM #13Originally Posted by blubomberLive Fast, Die Young, Dont Forget, Dont Regret
April 9th, 2005, 06:27 PM #14
I want the best system for my money, like everyone I suppose. I have been debating several differant systems for my home and at one point I was considering building 4 new boxes. I have now decided on two strong spec boxes. One for my wife and kids and one for myself. Eventually I plan to build a kitchen comp, a media centre for the lounge and a couple of small boxes for the kids. But that will have to wait for now!!
Anyway, my computer will need to be as strong and stable as possible. I will be using it for my new business as well as some video editing, audio work, a little gaming and the usual other apps.
The other box will be less resourse dependant but I would still like it to be a good performer. This box will be used for some office apps, web browsing, gaming and as a media centre (this box will be in our bedroom).
So, with all that in mind, I was thinking about two Skt939 mobo's and 2x A64 processors but I am not sure what clock speed.
April 9th, 2005, 06:36 PM #15
If u want to overclock and have money budget, get A64 3000+. If u have some money get winchester 3500+Live Fast, Die Young, Dont Forget, Dont Regret
April 9th, 2005, 06:37 PM #16
what is your budget? Personally, i think it's better to select the motherboard before the processor because the motherboard will influence stability much more than the processor will (they're all the same). Also the difference in clock speed isn't that important among the A64's in the grand scheme of things, but the difference in features on a motherboard can be night and day.
Personally i would recommend the nforce series chipset...i think the featureset is better than Via's at the moment.
April 9th, 2005, 07:29 PM #17
Well, as I said, I have chosen the Skt 939 and I had aleady decided on the NForce4 chipset. I am thinking of getting 2 X DFI LANPARTY UT Ultra-D's. http://www.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_pro...YPE=LP&SITE=UK . Looks good to me anyway.......is the increased L2 cache the only improvement in the A64FX?
Also, should I wait for the Venice core to hit before I buy my CPU's?
April 9th, 2005, 07:47 PM #18
in your case it actually might be worth it. Venice cores won't be as good for gaming, but will be better for many uses.
The DFI sli ultra board actually should be avoided. There was a hack originally that would hack an nforce4 ultra to an nforce4 sli. This board utilizes this hack. Unfortunately Nvidia was kinda pissed and managed to disable the hack through video drivers, which renders SLI on those boards useless.
April 9th, 2005, 11:17 PM #19
If you get away from Socket A, what about video cards? Will you have to go PCI-E?Work hard to become not to acquire. I didn't work hard to win a million dollars, I worked hard to become Winston Cup Champion. Alan Kulwicki 1992
April 9th, 2005, 11:21 PM #20Originally Posted by twistedbrntucker-Space
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