Processor/Motherboard upgrade help - Tech Support Forums

Bael · April 29th, 2005, 12:28 PM

Hii want to upgrade my computer real soon, but not sure on exactly what i need xD here are the details of my current processor/motherboard, dunno if you need al this lol, but cant hurt lol

Code:

-------------CPU---------------
      CPUID Manufacturer                                GenuineIntel
      CPUID CPU Name                                    Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz
      CPUID Revision                                    00000F34h
      IA Brand ID                                       00h  (Unknown)
      Platform ID                                       0Fh  (Socket 478)
      IA CPU Serial Number                              Unknown
      HTT / CMP Units                                   0 / 0


-------------MOTHERBOARD---------------

    Motherboard Properties:
      Motherboard ID                                    11/18/2004-SiS-661-6A7I4E1AC-00
      Motherboard Name                                  Abit SG-72 / ECS 661FX-M (Deluxe)

    Front Side Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Intel NetBurst
      Bus Width                                         64-bit
      Real Clock                                        133 MHz (QDR)
      Effective Clock                                   533 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         4266 MB/s

    Memory Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          DDR SDRAM
      Bus Width                                         64-bit
      Real Clock                                        200 MHz (DDR)
      Effective Clock                                   400 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         3200 MB/s

    Chipset Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          SiS MuTIOL
      Bus Width                                         16-bit

    Motherboard Physical Info:
      CPU Sockets/Slots                                 1
      Expansion Slots                                   3 PCI, 1 AGP
      RAM Slots                                         2 DIMM
      Integrated Devices                                Audio, Video, LAN
      Form Factor                                       Micro ATX
      Motherboard Size                                  230 mm x 240 mm
      Motherboard Chipset                               SiS661FX

so all i kno from that is that i need a processor with 478 pins right?? but i want to upgrade to a Intel Pentium 4, and was wondering if i could just stick one in there even tho it uses a celeron now??? they both come in variants with 478pins right?? so i could just put a pentium 4 in there right?? i was also wondering if there was such a thing as a dual CPU 478 socket motherboard?? ive found loads of dual motherbaords but i cant find one with 2 478sockets

if they do exist will someone please direct me to a site where i can purchase one please lol :P and also if they do exist would i be able to put both my new pentium4 processor in and my current celeron processor at the same time?? or do tehy need to be the same processor?? eg 2 pentium4s?? also thepentium i want has 3.2GHz after it w.e that means lol...but its the hgihest number within my price range so its the best i can get lol xD

Thanx for any help,
Bael

HeadBand · April 29th, 2005, 12:34 PM

no...there are no s478 dual boards because the p4 architecture won't allow it

the board you have supports only 533fsb cpus so if you want a 3.2 you are going to have to upgrade your motherboard....if you are using the onboard video it will be fairly easy to upgrade to a more futureproof socket t solution if you want to upgrade your mobo

Bael · April 29th, 2005, 12:46 PM

well i use a NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200LE (128 MB) video card at the min, but i'm also planning to upgrade that to a ATI Radeon 9600XT (256MB) card, I'm not exactly sure how much better this one is than the one i currently have, i just go by proce difference lol...i figure if its more expensive its better right??? xD

so how do i know what motherboard will work with teh pentium 4 i want and also with all the other stuff i current use/have on my computer?? sorry for been such a n00b lol i'm new to hardware stuff....lol only upgradin experience ive got is puttin a piece of 512k ram in to teh comp xD

i've been looking around...and would THIS mobo work?? with teh pentium 4 i want??? even thos this motherboard is a different size 2 the one i currently have would it still fit in my case???

also is there any tutorials/guides you can direct me 2, 2assist me with installing both the new processor and the mobo??

thanx,
Bael

[EDIT]
ok did some more searching, and found a motherboard with 800fsb and is s478 that is micro-atx same as what my current 1 is, so i think this one should work right?? Click Here to see it, also will the RAM i have in my computer now work in this comp or will i need to buy a whole new type of Memory??

[EDIT AGAIN]
xD omg that one won't work it doesnt have an AGP slot xD
ok last try :P This one ??

Thanx again,
Bael

Friedchicken100 · April 29th, 2005, 01:08 PM

A 9600Xt would a MUCH better upgrade.

JPMiller · April 29th, 2005, 01:26 PM

OK... before you go ANY farther... we need some more info...
First off is this some compaq, HP, dell or something like that?
all the big name brands basically use a variety of proprietary parts such as in case design, power supply limits and other random problems...
When doing upgrades its necessary to take into consideration ALL the factors...
you do an upgrade to the processor, and video, you may well be looking at a new power supply as well...

Bael · April 29th, 2005, 01:32 PM

its an Acer aspire T310, click here
lol if i had the money when i bought the pc i could av got the one with the P4 already in then i wunt need anythin cept for the new vid card xD

JPMiller · April 29th, 2005, 01:45 PM

OK...
no need to upgrade the Mobo...
you can upgrade to most any AGP video card you want...
you can get just about any P4 with that interface as well due to the 800 FSB ability...
your memory should work fine...
your only concern may be the power supply...
open the side and there should be a sticker with your power supply info on the outside of the PSU facing you...
tell us what the maximum wattage states and the amps on the +12V line

Bael · April 29th, 2005, 02:11 PM

Code:

Max DC output: 200w (+3.3v & +5v =105w Max)
DC Output: +3.3v---14.0A, +5V---21.0A, +12V---10.0A

think thats what you needed right???
I don't undertsnad tho, the other guy said my motherboard only had 533FSB and thats what it says on the FSB properties of my motherboard aswell :S

Code:

Front Side Bus Properties:
      Bus Type                                          Intel NetBurst
      Bus Width                                         64-bit
      Real Clock                                        133 MHz (QDR)
      Effective Clock                                   533 MHz
      Bandwidth                                         4266 MB/s

JPMiller · April 29th, 2005, 02:24 PM

Thats what its running right now with a Celeron installed...
not whats its capable of...
http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page9...crc=3479343951
shows SiS 661FX chipset supporting 400/533/800 MHz FSB

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OK... as long as its not a MicroATX PSU then you should be able to upgrade it...
because of its horribly low specs, I wouldnt attempt ANY upgrade unless you get a new PSU first!

Bael · April 29th, 2005, 02:33 PM

right so how do i find out if its a micro atx psu?? i think it will be seen as tho my mobo is a micor-atx right??? what should i do if it is micro-atx?? is it imposible to upgrade it??? couldnt i just buy a new micro-atx case with a better PSU in it?? and tranfer everythin from this case to the new one?? so all i need to do is buy teh new processor an teh ner vid card, after teh PSU, and then all i have to do is shove em in??? have you got any links to some cpu/graphics card tuts/guides i could take a look at??

Thanx for all your help guys

Bael

[edit]
what about this one??? click here
it has a 300w psu would that be sufficient??