An Amd Chip Equal To Intel

rabidaardvark · May 15th, 2006, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RamonGTP

Solo, you don't know what you're talking about. Please provide me some concrete evidence showing a 3700+ dominating a 3.4GHz P4 besides your own (wrong) opinion... Be my guest and go check out tomshardware cpu charts and you will see they are about even. The 3700+ winning some and the 3.4 winning others. Here, i'll help you get started.

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=73&model2=325

Go ahead and run through the tests and tally up the 3.4 wins vs the 3700+ wins.

Well if it's going to win in non-gaming and audio stuff anyway, why would you cheat and put an 775 processor in instead of his 478? Seems you should at least be honest when mocking people.

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 03:03 AM

http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.ht...=53&model2=220

Same story... The 3.4 takes a few and the 3700+ takes a few. Since when was this a gaming only performance question? Sure, for gaming, the 3700+ is definatly a better CPU, I'm not disputing that. Over all though the 3700+ is equal to a 3.4GHz P4, even if it is Socket 478.

rabidaardvark · May 15th, 2006, 04:23 AM

If you all addressing me. I do not consider gaming to be of much priority at all. Nor am I trying to say the 3700+ is better or worse. The OP didn't say what they do with their machine though did they. And I just figured the right chip should be compared. Solo isn't wrong, the 3700+ kills the P4 chip mentioned in gaming, about the only concern of Solo's. Where he got it wrong was not considering the OP.

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 04:38 AM

Solo is wrong since he did not mention gaming, YOU did. He made a GENERAL statement that the 3700+ DOMINATE a 3.4GHz P4... Gaming is NOT a GENERAL statement, it is a SPECIFIC one. GENERALLY speaking, a 3700+ is equal to a 3.4GHz P4.

rabidaardvark · May 15th, 2006, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamonGTP

Solo is wrong since he did not mention gaming, YOU did. He made a GENERAL statement that the 3700+ DOMINATE a 3.4GHz P4... Gaming is NOT a GENERAL statement, it is a SPECIFIC one. GENERALLY speaking, a 3700+ is equal to a 3.4GHz P4.

I said that the P4 would beat it in non-gaming areas, is that something to get all cap locky about. Jesus.

Solo doesn't understand that there are things other than gaming. So no I don't think his statement was general.

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 05:20 AM

I believe it is something to get "cap locky" about, simply because you're stating he isn't wrong for reasons that he didn't even mention. In fact, the person that mentioned them was you. You are saying that the 3700+ is better in gaming, and you're right. Solo didn't say that, why are you arguing over something that is undisputable??? He did not mention games, PERIOD. His statement WAS general. This isn't about how he thinks or what his understanding is, that is pure speculation on your part. It is about what he actually said, and there is nothing speculative about that. The only thing specific about it was the processors in question. I'm going to bed now

rabidaardvark · May 15th, 2006, 06:31 AM

I still can't wait to be banned. Don't know why I abuse myself.

SoloCamo · May 15th, 2006, 08:54 AM

Whooo! What a angry crowd I've somehow walked into! Yea, so, I didn't put gaming, when I was typing it I knew I should have, but guess what? I got lazy.

Calm down Ramon, seriously, calm down. Since 9/10 people that come to this site ask about gaming performance anyways, I feel it wasn't this huge mistake to assume he was going to game on the thing.

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 11:36 AM

Oh I am calm.

You got too lazy to type "for gaming"??? I don't buy it. Nice cover by acting like gaming is what you ment. In any case, you didn't say it, and neither did the OP. What that boils down to is that your original clam was incorrect, and if you're assuming gaming, you'd be wrong for doing so since the only person that brought it up was your buddy.

Your asumption my very well turn out to be correct, and this might be used primarily for gaming, that however still won't change the fact that your original post is incorrect becuase it was not mentioned nor hinted in any way shape or form back then. Expecting everyone to not only read yoru mind, but assume you in turn can read the OP's mind is a stretch. It boils down to the next time you feel like telling me i'm wrong, atleast know what you're talking about. Rabbid (at one point) had a valid argument against me in that I chose the LGA775 CPU. That was a mistake on my part by overloooking the OP's specs. Did I blindly go on defending myself and bring in other factors that weren't even mentioned to try and prove myself correct? No, I looked at the facts givin and went back, chose the correct spec P4 processor, and saw that it showed the same trend.

buckaro · May 15th, 2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RamonGTP

Solo is wrong since he did not mention gaming, YOU did. He made a GENERAL statement that the 3700+ DOMINATE a 3.4GHz P4... Gaming is NOT a GENERAL statement, it is a SPECIFIC one. GENERALLY speaking, a 3700+ is equal to a 3.4GHz P4.

Seems to me Ramon has a problem with Solo. Sorry to say this but in a couple of the threads i've been posting in also, you just seem to have a go at Solo and start massive arguaments...nothing wrong with that, but it does when you get someone else having a go at someone's inteligence....

And in general, for most people, AMD will beat an intel in what they do the most of IMO. That being office work, and gaming. You must admit, intel don't do as well as AMD in office stuff, but it just so happen THG stopped their office benchmarks...

And i was alos going to mention the CPU thing.

Another thing, i don't trust benchmarks which are from say 3D mark. Why? Because its a benchmark program, it does not necesserally represent real performance.

Edit: Is it actually the 3.4E or northy CPU???