An Amd Chip Equal To Intel

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 12:17 PM

I like AMD better too, I am not saying Intel is "better" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, ALL my PC's are AMD, except for my laptop. I'm simply saying which AMD cpu I feel is about equivilent to a P4 3.4GHz... Does one have a slight edge over the other? Quite possibly, depending on what you do, but one thing is for certain and that is neither CPU "dominates" the other.

buckaro · May 15th, 2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RamonGTP

I like AMD better too, I am not saying Intel is "better" by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, ALL my PC's are AMD, except for my laptop. I'm simply saying which AMD cpu I feel is about equivilent to a P4 3.4GHz... Does one have a slight edge over the other? Quite possibly, depending on what you do, but one thing is for certain and that is neither CPU "dominates" the other.

Well either way, if we look at prices also considered, which IMO is a very important fact, AMD has intel completely clobered.

The basic assumption that AMD's 3500+ is comparable to a 3.5ghz P4 is made because thats ABOUT what it equals out too. Also the fact that a lot of us read gaming mags and they compare AMD's CPU's to intels with a mind towards gaming. IMO its a fair way to judge AMD's vs. intel at a glance...however intel's netburst archtechture can give it an advantage in a lot of things. However no benchmark can acomodate half the programs we use, i'd be interested to see something with say load times at startup and overall performance. Im running a P4 2.8ghz here and its fine, its the rest of my PC that lets me down.

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 01:59 PM

Pricing really depends on what processors you're looking at... In the lower-mid range end single core market, yes AMD has Intel totally beat on pricing. In the mid-high end single core, the prices are about equal. And in the dual core market, Intel is actually cheaper.

We can go back and forth for days if we keep bringing in other variables to help support our claims. This is a very simple question that does not need to get this complicated. What AMD CPU is equal to a P4 3.4GHz processor? From a performance stand point, when you consider the pro's and con's of BOTH processors, the 3700+ is about equal. Of course if you only focus on what the A64's are good at, it will apear to be better, likewise if if you focused on strictly what the P4 is good at, it would appear to be better.

Heck, i'll even entertain the idea that a 3500+ is the equivilent CPU. But a 3400+??? No way, especially since that is a s754 cpu.

SoloCamo · May 15th, 2006, 03:03 PM

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Oh I am calm.

You got too lazy to type "for gaming"??? I don't buy it. Nice cover by acting like gaming is what you ment. In any case, you didn't say it, and neither did the OP. What that boils down to is that your original clam was incorrect, and if you're assuming gaming, you'd be wrong for doing so since the only person that brought it up was your buddy.

Your asumption my very well turn out to be correct, and this might be used primarily for gaming, that however still won't change the fact that your original post is incorrect becuase it was not mentioned nor hinted in any way shape or form back then. Expecting everyone to not only read yoru mind, but assume you in turn can read the OP's mind is a stretch. It boils down to the next time you feel like telling me i'm wrong, atleast know what you're talking about. Rabbid (at one point) had a valid argument against me in that I chose the LGA775 CPU. That was a mistake on my part by overloooking the OP's specs. Did I blindly go on defending myself and bring in other factors that weren't even mentioned to try and prove myself correct? No, I looked at the facts givin and went back, chose the correct spec P4 processor, and saw that it showed the same trend.

Hmmm, lately here at techimo I feel like a sick fish in shark territory....

Big deal Ramon, my original post was wrong! Big deal! You don't need to write an essay about how wrong it was. Does it make you feel better knowing that your right?

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 03:22 PM

yes

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 03:50 PM

Solo, apparently there are a couple people who seem to think I have a personal vandetta agaisnt you and are taking things personally, whcih is odd since it doesn't even concern them. As far as this thread is concerned, your first reply to me seemed condescending, as was my reply to you. The difference being that yours was suger coated and mine was blunt and not as politically correct. You basically said I didn't know what I was talking about and that the AMD dominates the Intel (the way I see it anyway) and I actually used the words "you dont know what you're talking about" and that they're about equal.

I'd like to clear things up now by saying my beef with you is not personal as far as i'm concerned. It's... Technical I guess you could say. We simply disagree on many things, except for maybe the occassional car discussion.

EXreaction · May 15th, 2006, 03:53 PM

You two are just too alike...thats why you fight.

buckaro · May 15th, 2006, 03:59 PM

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Solo, apparently there are a couple people who seem to think I have a personal vandetta agaisnt you and are taking things personally, whcih is odd since it doesn't even concern them. As far as this thread is concerned, your first reply to me seemed condescending, as was my reply to you. The difference being that yours was suger coated and mine was blunt and not as politically correct. You basically said I didn't know what I was talking about and that the AMD dominates the Intel (the way I see it anyway) and I actually used the words "you dont know what you're talking about" and that they're about equal.

I'd like to clear things up now by saying my beef with you is not personal as far as i'm concerned. It's... Technical I guess you could say. We simply disagree on many things, except for maybe the occassional car discussion.

I thought it was just the one *cough*

Oh, and AMD has the top end with the FX-60...and lets end it on that

. Although i still think AMD is top dog performance wise at all levels of price i shall leave it as im not going to convince you and await the release of the next load of intel chips. They should be good!

RamonGTP · May 15th, 2006, 04:06 PM

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I thought it was just the one *cough*

Oh, and AMD has the top end with the FX-60...and lets end it on that

. Although i still think AMD is top dog performance wise at all levels of price i shall leave it as im not going to convince you and await the release of the next load of intel chips. They should be good!

Agreed 100%. For the record, I never said Intel was better

buckaro · May 16th, 2006, 11:33 AM

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Agreed 100%. For the record, I never said Intel was better

So that includes the top sentence?

. I'd say if you want something better than a 3.4ghz P4 then definatly the 3800+ or 4000+ you can't say aren't better. However, at those prices the AMD x2 3800+ is a well priced dual core CPU, definatly worth it IMO.