e6750 vs Phenom 9500+

islandguy999 · December 30th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Considering building a new tower to go with my new 8800gt, since my socket 939 is impossible to upgrade anymore.

At around the $200 mark are both a pentium E6750, and a Phenom 9500+. Assuming a $100 am2+ board will actually support the new phenoms, which is the better option to go atm?

Or am I crazy to buy anything until pentium releases their new socket? Not sure if that's Q1 or Q4 of '08 though.

-edit- Could possibly spring the extra $40 for the Q6600 which is on sale atm, but $200 already felt steep. Would do it if I was crazy not to though. Opinions?

KarmaKiller · December 30th, 2007, 10:53 PM

Hi there.
Before I get ahead of myself, you do have a couple of options for a upgrade on you current system. They do make dual core CPU's for the 939 socket. And they are a nice upgrade. If nothing else, it will hold you over till they do release the new Intel chips.

But if your really wanting the new setup now, spring the extra few dollars and get the Quad. It's well worth it...
If not, get the E6750. That chip is smoking fast and very overclockable...

Good luck!

islandguy999 · December 30th, 2007, 11:08 PM

Retail, best I can buy in a socket 939 is an x2 3800+, which is about $75. Ebay you can buy an x2 4200+ for about the same price. Past that even a 4400+ is ridiculously priced on ebay. I only have a gig of ram atm too, need more of that, and ddr1 is sick expensive vs ddr2 as well. I can pass this computer down to the family anyways, or just sell it. Saves having spare parts unusable and sitting on the shelf.

New processor wise, I am feeling the e6750 is a great deal through ncix.ca atm for $210. Though Tigerdirect.ca has the Q6600 for $80 off at $260, as well as a great deal on an XFX mobo I am considering http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicatio...59594&CatId=13 which is basically half price, and banked my decision to go pentium somewhat.

That mobo a good choice? What wattage is safe with this stuff too? I was thinking an antec 550 or more to be on the safe side. Though less would run it I'm sure.

KarmaKiller · December 31st, 2007, 07:43 AM

Hi again..
As far as the Motherboard, I think it's a good choice. I myself just picked up a EVGA 680 board, if that tells you anything..

For the power supply, I'd go with at least a 600watt. Just to be on the safe side. You might check into OCZ, they have a nice deal on a 600 psu...
That's what I'm running for a PSU, and I love it...

Good luck, Hope I helped...

Ryan220587 · December 31st, 2007, 09:10 AM

hi there islandguy999,

as far as the motherboard goes, IMO xfx is not such a good choice: i would definitely go for the evga instead (or even a gigabyte board: fantastic value for money and awesome for OCing).

for the cpu, i would strongly recommend either the e6750 or the q6600. they are both awesome cpu's (i went for the e6750 a little while ago and was VERY impressed, even at stock).

apparently the amd's just aren't living up to the hype atm, and hence intel's move to deliberately delay the release of their new chips, since amd doesn't offer much competition at this point in time.

as far as the psu goes, karma's suggestion is just fine, and will power everything with much power to spare. although i would be quietly confident that my vx450watt corsair psu would run a dual core + 8800gt no worries (purchased recently and stoked about this unit - thanks karma

).

hope this helps.

Ryan.

KarmaKiller · December 31st, 2007, 06:47 PM

Yeah, Corsair's are really nice units also. The OCZ is normally just the cheaper of the two.

And in all honesty, I didn't know XFX boards weren't good. I've never used one, but XFX is a good brand on everything else. I don't see why it's different when it comes to motherboards.

Have you had a bad experience with them Ryan?

ShyguyXPC · December 31st, 2007, 08:00 PM

I always thought many of the XFX & EVGA boards were for the most part the same, just different brand slapped on them, made by some other company...

could of sworn I remember awhile back there were some XFX, EVGA & I Think Jetway or some other company that offered the same exact boards, just made by same manufacturer, back when triple PCIE 16x Physical slot, 2 16x 1 8x Electrical boards started popping up all over, back when the XFX & EVGA boards were first coming out. not sure if the Bios's differed or what, but boards were pretty much the same.

Other than that, Agreed go with Intel, there's been too many problems with the new AMD's, hardware error/glitches, & other crap. from what I read, apparently AMD didn't fully test them or rushed them to market, now the Phenoms are handicapped, & the solution to fix them handicaps them even more.

I'm running an older E6400 myself, & will be upgrading it soon, haven't decided on CPU yet, but got 4 choices, depending on what I want to spend, E6750, E6850 (Most expensive of the 4), Q6600 or Xeon X3210 Quad (If I want to save a few bucks on a Quad).

as well as will be upgrading current G80 8800GTS 320MB to 512MB 8800GT or GTS with G92 core

RamonGTP · December 31st, 2007, 08:28 PM

I've never used XFX boards, but I have used several of their video cards and have never had a problem.

Couple notes... The company name is Intel, not Pentium. In addition, there is no such thing as a Pentium e6750 or a Pentium Q6600. The Pentium name is now reserved for the low end CPU's which are the e2xxx series. The e6750 is called a Core 2 Duo and the quad core is reffered to as Core 2 Quad. It may seem a bit nit picky of me, but it just makes things easier on the readers when the correct names are used.

Also, unless you're planning to run SLI, I would ditch the 680i chipset all together and go with an Intel P35 based board. P35 is faster and more stable than the 680i is. They generally also overclock better. If you are going to go SLI, then you don't really have much of a choice, you've got to go with an nVidia chipset.