AMD Phenom vs Intel Quad Core

[vikeor]

- Expensive
- Pain in the butt to set up
- Can be loud (external heat exchanger)
- Big
- Can leak
- Have to refill every now and then

Should i keep on going? ;p

[Lasher13]

That is interesting, Water cooling to me sounded like it would be fun like a water amusment park going on in your system and at the same time be very beneficial to it. I was wandering, Can you use a different liquid in a liquid cooling system other than water?

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RamonGTP: Oh, lets not forget that the Phenom has a very well documented TLB errata that can cause system instability.

As an AMD fanboy I purchased the AMD phenom 9600 as soon as I found out AMD had it which was 2 weeks ago. Now I'm concerned about my decision. Should I be concerned? What is a TLB errata?

[KarmaKiller]

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What is a TLB errata?

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13721
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13764

[vikeor]

you dont actually use water in "water" cooling is a special coolant

[RamonGTP]

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Originally Posted by Lasher13

That is interesting, Water cooling to me sounded like it would be fun like a water amusment park going on in your system and at the same time be very beneficial to it. I was wandering, Can you use a different liquid in a liquid cooling system other than water?




As an AMD fanboy I purchased the AMD phenom 9600 as soon as I found out AMD had it which was 2 weeks ago. Now I'm concerned about my decision. Should I be concerned? What is a TLB errata?

I'd be concerned personally. While the error may be rare for most people, you never know when it will hit. It mainly affects people who use Virutal machines like VPC, but the error can also happen during regular usage. I guess let this be a lesson. Don't buy a processor based on fanboy views, look where it got you. You paid the same amount of money for a CPU that is slower, hotter, less stable, and overclocks like crap.

[MINION180]

I'm too planning on getting a pc from cyberpower by April.
I heard liquid cooling ones are much quieter- tell me which fans and/or liguids are the most quiet.
If I get the AMD Phenom- will it work good with nividia cards like 8600 gts or 8800 ones.
If I get a intel quad, I'm getting the lowest cost one, so which one would be better- lowest one- quad or one of the Phenom amd processors
I'm a big fps/ strategy gamer.
I'm not gonna get a blu ray drive and def not a hddvd for I have a ps3.
which mother boards and graphic cards work the best for gaming?
I already have a monitor/hdtv 1080p 22 inch so all I need is a good card and processor/ mother board and silent cooling system for gaming and for a decent low cost of no more than 1450.00$$

[RamonGTP]

The lowest end Intel quads is better than the highest end Phenom quads.

[pullmyfoot]

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Originally Posted by RamonGTP

The lowest end Intel quads is better than the highest end Phenom quads.

but if im not wrong AMD still has the better price/performance ratio. why cant AMD do a 65nm version of dual core since they seem to already have the technlogy. besides, its so much easier to make a 65nm version of a dual than a quad

[KarmaKiller]

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Originally Posted by MINION180

I'm too planning on getting a pc from cyberpower by April.
I heard liquid cooling ones are much quieter- tell me which fans and/or liguids are the most quiet.
If I get the AMD Phenom- will it work good with nividia cards like 8600 gts or 8800 ones.
If I get a intel quad, I'm getting the lowest cost one, so which one would be better- lowest one- quad or one of the Phenom amd processors
I'm a big fps/ strategy gamer.
I'm not gonna get a blu ray drive and def not a hddvd for I have a ps3.
which mother boards and graphic cards work the best for gaming?
I already have a monitor/hdtv 1080p 22 inch so all I need is a good card and processor/ mother board and silent cooling system for gaming and for a decent low cost of no more than 1450.00$$

Honestly, you'd be much better off building your own system. It will cost you less, you get the exact parts YOU want, and you know the quality will be there. You still have warranties with the manufacture, which are normally the best warranty you can get. You might have to pay a shipping cost, but that's it.
Not only that, but it's a good learning experience, and really pretty easy. Plus, if you learn now, you can save yourself money every time you update systems. It's well worth it!
I have a 9 year old cousin, that just completed his first build.
He did have help picking parts out, but he actually assembled the hole machine himself.
Anywho, we can make a list for you, and more then likely, it will be cheaper then what you have in your budget.
Also want to mention, there are a ton of guides out that will explain everything to you, step by step. This is the best guide I've found so far.

Good luck, Hope I helped!

[RamonGTP]

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Originally Posted by pullmyfoot

but if im not wrong AMD still has the better price/performance ratio. why cant AMD do a 65nm version of dual core since they seem to already have the technlogy. besides, its so much easier to make a 65nm version of a dual than a quad

I'll disagree with that whole heartedly. The difference is less than $40... $40 is WELL worth a processor that is faster stock for stock, runs cooler, does not have a potentially serious errata issue, and overclocks WAAAYYY better.

Sorry but AMD has already lost this battle. Intel is just waiting to pull the trigger on 45nm quads which will only widen the gap.