Looking for intel CPU data I can understand

[dunbar]

I have an EliteGroup mainboard, RC410L/800-M, it can accept a dual core processor. I'm currently using a Celeron D 3.3 GHz processor, with 1Gig RAM already in place. Yeah, I'll get more RAM some day, but the CPU gets upgraded first.


- Will this be a simple matter of matching CPU clock speed and socket?



-And where, in Intels current website, do I get the simplest explanation of which retail 'box' to order?


TIA...

[RicheemxX]

Yeah socket and FSB are factors but since its an older board it won't support newer chips. Looking at the specs from the ecs site it looks like P4 and Pentium D are it. Here is the CPU support list. I haven't looked for PD's in awhile since they are several gens back but unless you get a good deal you might almost be better off buying a whole new setup

Here is the Intel page with Pen D data Intel® Pentium® D Processor - Intel® Pentium® D Processor support

Not too sure what you mean by "simplest explanation of which retail 'box' to order?" So I'm not sure how to answer that one.

[dunbar]

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Originally Posted by RicheemxX

Yeah socket and FSB are factors but since its an older board it won't support newer chips. Looking at the specs from the ecs site it looks like P4 and Pentium D are it. Here is the CPU support list. I haven't looked for PD's in awhile since they are several gens back but unless you get a good deal you might almost be better off buying a whole new setup

Here is the Intel page with Pen D data Intel® Pentium® D Processor - Intel® Pentium® D Processor support

Not too sure what you mean by "simplest explanation of which retail 'box' to order?" So I'm not sure how to answer that one.

Huh?

Your link to the ECS Web Site says (on the other tab) the board supports dual core in LGA775, and if you look at the CPU support link which you posted, the top few, such as Intel Pentium D 960 (D0), are dual core: 2x2MB cache! (been there, done that)



As to the box number, I tried to research this a while back, midsummer, going from Pentium D 960 in Socket whatever seemed to not be on the same page as the retail order options for the CPU.

Your Intel link could serve nicely, except I still need to confirm the Pentium 960 D is, in fact a dually (the Intel link says nothing). From the ECS site, it looks as if my RAM won't need to change even if I jump to 3.6 GHz.


I believe I can find the 960 for about $175 (pricewatch shows $145 from Starmicro, but I've not researched Starmicro), which still smokes a current gen buy, since I cannot afford a new mobo/current gen cpu/cooler/ram combo.

[ShyguyXPC]

All Pentium D's are Dual cores, thats what the D in Pentium D refers to.

the Celeron D was not a Dual core, only more current Intel Core 2 Era Celerons are available in Dual core, Intel added the D on celeron back then since those Celerons came out the same time as the Pentium D and used similar tech that was used in the Pentium D, trying to cash in on the Dual core hype I guess, it was deceptive advertising to say the least.


as to searching the specs on a given CPU: Filter Summary

[ShyguyXPC]

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Originally Posted by dunbar

I believe I can find the 960 for about $175 (pricewatch shows $145 from Starmicro, but I've not researched Starmicro), which still smokes a current gen buy, since I cannot afford a new mobo/current gen cpu/cooler/ram combo.

you should be able to net a combo like that for $175 easily, even a less GHz Speed current Core 2 Duo or Pentium Dual Core (Pentium Dual Core is a Series not a general term, they're lesser spec'd Core 2 Duo's, a step above the Celeron Dual cores), will smoke the top end Pentium D's. its a new Architecture for the CPU and will process more data at lower speeds easily.


Newegg.com - Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5GHz 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor - Processors - Desktops
(use the Stock Cooler for now, if not overclocking, then it works perfectly fine)

Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GA-G41M-ES2L LGA 775 Intel G41 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Intel Motherboards

Newegg.com - WINTEC AMPO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model 3AMD2800-2G2K-R - Desktop Memory

Just under $178 total after shipping.

could go with slower DDR2 667Mhz RAM that would still be decently fast, and lower the cost a little to be under $175.

but yeah, it is VERY possible to build or upgrade a system with superior CPU power for same amount or less than what your seeing for Pentium D pricing.

[dunbar]

Hmm.

A dual core 2.5 GHz E5200 at 2.5 GHz is going to be faster than dual core Pentium D at 3.6 GHz? I'm talking almost 50% higher clock.... Ok, I've been out of the loop, but your statement needs a big jump in crunching power. Toms Hardware supports your statement?

[RicheemxX]

LOL it always makes me chuckle when people ask for advice then question said advice. Yes newer chips are faster than older chips even with a freq. rating. The old school thought of comparing speed vs speed just doesn't work these days. Heck even a slower (in terms of freq/mhz) core i5/i7 will be faster than a faster (again in terms of mhz) core2 and you are talking about 2 fairly recent chips there. The old Pentium D's are several generations back now and while they were good chips at the time don't even touch some of the chips out now.

Now days its all about the differences in architecture

You can check the benchies for thoughts sake PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts

[Cyclone2]

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You can check the benchies for thoughts sake PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts

Thanks for that link RicheemxX now I can easily see what cpu to go for when I replace my 2.4 Sempron