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Old September 1st, 2002, 11:38 AM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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AMD XP 2100+ with stock fan

Hi all,
I'm currently running my AMD XP 2100+ processor on an Asus A7V266-C motherboard, with a stock fan. Running at stock rates, I am hitting temperatures of 65 degrees celcius, 73 degrees at full load (i.e. Playing Warcraft III...). I was considering bringing the voltage down, but am already running at 1.75V.
Does anybody have any advice on what I can do to remedy the situation? While there aren't any problems with normal operations, it does get quite frustrating when the computer freezes up halfway into the game (especially if I forgot to save )

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Old September 1st, 2002, 11:53 AM     #2 (permalink)
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A few things to check, is your HS in contact with the core of the processor with either a thermal pad (ok) or a very thin layer of ASIII (even better) in between? Is your HS warm? What is the case temperature, what is the room temperature, how many fans do you have? Do you have good airflow? Are your IDE's rounded to ensure this good air flow, etc...

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Old September 1st, 2002, 12:09 PM     #3 (permalink)
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Stock fan is really bad .. and these temps are high ..

Don't expect the temps to go down unless you change to another quality HS with AS or thermal paste at least (no gummy pad) ...

Also what is your case temp .. do you have good air-flow inside of it?

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Old September 1st, 2002, 12:55 PM     #4 (permalink)
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You aren't running at 1.75V.
Asus changes the vcore voltage to 1.85V, that could be changed in jumperless mode. Though, I did that, and the voltage that resulted was 2.0xV which made the temps go sky high.

Your temperatures match mine, ~60C idle and ~70C under full load.
I found out a while ago that my hsf does have some silver paste. I bought the retail version of glacialtech igloo 2310 which has that.

The temperatures seem to be a feature of asus.

Install the asus probe (found on cd) or motherboard monitor (found on ftp.asuscom.de) to see your voltages/temps.

The bios reports the vcore falsely.
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Old September 1st, 2002, 01:00 PM     #5 (permalink)
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Here is a screen capture of motherboard monitor readings.
System is idle.

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Here are a few things you can read for good cooling info!

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Old September 1st, 2002, 02:23 PM     #7 (permalink)
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Thanks to everyone who has replied.... Using a Cooler Master thermal paste. It's quite sticky and doesn't flow very well, so the layer is not as thin as I would like. Anyway, running open top now. Motherboard temp remains around 35 degrees. The heat sink does get hot, though.
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Old September 1st, 2002, 02:31 PM     #8 (permalink)
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(Hey,Mike) - thanks, I'll read those myself. . .
Muno,looking at the mobo monitor jpg, it looks as if only the CPU fan is registering any rpms. Does this mean that you have no
other case fans installed, or is it a prob w/ Asus, as was the case
w/my A7M266, which can be rectified with a BIOS update?

mc:
Those temps seem high. Be careful, and check if the heatsink is actually very warm or hot to the touch. I think mobo temp sensors
are notorious for being inaccurate, but since you're experiencing
lock-ups, seems that your CPU is, in fact running hot.

After checking things out, and you find that you need a better
heatsink/fan, you might want to consider a Thermaltake
Volcano 9+ , a Thermaltake AX-7 heatsink,then find a good 80mm
fan for it, or a Vantec 6027D HSF setup as recommended over at
www.HardOCP.com
Remember that the HSF performance is going to be some trade-off between price/fan rpm/noise/air volume(cfm).

Hope this helps.

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Old September 1st, 2002, 03:34 PM     #9 (permalink)
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Muno what PS are you using, seems that your +12 and +5 voltages are a bit off. The +5 is close to the +/- 5% tolerance so its ok, but your +12 is off by a lot.
My readings are (using Gigabyte System Managment)
+5Vsb +4.990
+12 +11.900
+5 +4.940
+3.3 +3.360
VCore +1.740

I may be wrong about the +/- 5% tolerance, but I like my voltages to stay as close to what they are suppose to be as posbbile.

Now back to topic, those temps are extremely high, you may want to imporve your case air circulation, and/or adding a better fan. I personaly like HSF that can accomodate 80 mm fans, they are ususaly quiter, and do a good job.
The Volcano 7+ is a good choice, as are the heat pipes from coolermaster.
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Old September 1st, 2002, 03:51 PM     #10 (permalink)
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a side note...

just got my first retail box processor XP 1900+
So, it came with stock fan. Reading through the limited warranty, that 3 yr warranty is void if you use anything but the stock fan. Don't have it in front of me, but I can put the wording in later if any interested.
Seemed a little strange..
Anyway, on full load(UD) and serious HD copying, mine gets up to 49 with the stock fan. A bit high, so I'll be looking for a different fan.
Although, the stock fan went on very well, didn't have to push so hard, and wasn't afraid of cracking it like with some of these others.
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