after crushing 2 cores....

[Tazman]

Well as the heading states. I recently crushed 2 amd cores. Im not a novice, having removed and replaced many hsf's. But a few days ago i decided to upgrade my hsf from a volcano 7 to the 7+ (gotta love full copper hsf) to hopefully get my agnga 1800+ up to 1800mhz but was thwarted buy the fact i crushed the chip, tried to put my spare dunro 1000 in the mb and kablamo crushed again,

I did almost the same exact thing. I crushed a 1.3 bird a while back and my 1800 last month - putting on that same hs/f (it is a sweet heat sink). Mine ran for a week and let me install XP. Then it started doing waked out things. It ran for the week before I actually admitted to myself that I may have been a tad too hasty in the assembley - sure 'nuff.

I also only had a 1GHz Duron (how weird is that?). In my case, I didn't crush the Duron - I put a $20 generic hs/f on for the time being 'cuz now I gotta lap the Volcano . The Duron is gonna stay put for now 'til I get my hands on a 2600 - that's the punishment I assigned to myself. My new Ti4200 (128MB) is benchmarking about the same as my TI200 64MB did with the 1800.

I was careless, and didnt take the proper care. but ive learnt my lesson now

Ditto

Mike

[sugardaddy]

I am using Duron cpu but even Celeron II is made the same way and can easily just be crushed with the way same AMD fans are made. Like coolermaster, the cheapest heatsink brand you can find there is serious design flaw thats made to crush the core if you are to push it hard enough until it clips in. I had to butcher the thing, the middle thing in the clipper had a huge ball like thing that is too huge and is more then enough to kill cpu if you are to force with 100 lbs of pressure. This is not the fault with AMD cpu, it some fan manufacturer are taking it for granted that cpu are indestructible. This is really disturbing as we have to be more cautious of how much pressure we put on it. the less pressure the better, since it like a mirror and it can crack easily.

[nukes]

I must be the only one. I have built countless (read hundreds) of socket A systems, and never killed a chip. And I have put them on backwards etc.
I am more worried about breaking the mobo with the pressure I use than the chip now, however, I do have to agree that it is disturbing that they seem to break so easily, even if they never have for me.
The downside to using a heat spreader or something is:
1) You get beter cooling the way it is now.
2) AMD chips run hot
3) If they put a heat spreader on, like the P4, all of us lot would be cutting it back off with razor blades to get at the bridges.

[Inferior]

I'd prefer AMD not put heat spreaders on their cores. The way they have it now is much more efficient for heat transfer. And I still believe if you take your time and look at how the heatsink attachs very well the odds of crushing it are slim.

[Daft_Ghosty]

its my understanding that AMD is going to go with a tray system like the Intel uses now.. for the Hammer core.. so that is something that will be great if they do.. here is a look at a hammer board.. and u can see how it will put a heatsink on the board.. though u can't see a tray.. u can see its mouting points..

http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboa...017/index.html

[samwichse]

3) If they put a heat spreader on, like the P4, all of us lot would be cutting it back off with razor blades to get at the bridges.

Oh how true it is...

[chris64]

This is probably a dumb question but couldn't they just use some AS3 epoxy and put a little piece of copper on top of the core.

[sugardaddy]

i think we just need to be more gentle on the cpu and use fans that are easier on it with easy clip on instead of those require a flat type screwdriver to drive it in? it is to my understanding that not all fan are made equal, some are made to crack the core regardless of how careful you are