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Old January 1st, 2003, 06:55 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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YOUR ALL WRONG!

J/K, some of you are sometimes right.

I was at the AMD site and ran into this movie.

Umm...No thermal paste?
Use thermal pads?

Everyone must be doing it wrong then.

EDIT: What I was looking for at the AMD site was the speed of the Athlon XP chips. I really wanted to know if the 2400+ is 1.93ghz or 2.0. Stores at pricewatch claim it as both.

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Old January 1st, 2003, 06:57 PM     #2 (permalink)
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SEcond of all, thats funny

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Old January 1st, 2003, 07:03 PM     #3 (permalink)
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oops the title is misspelled. Well, I suck at spelling anything. And I type too fast for my own good, Type 65 WPM, yet get like 70% accurate.
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Old January 1st, 2003, 07:04 PM     #4 (permalink)
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humm thermal paste can degrade over time.. but a long time.. I guess if u were building a server.. a pad might be best.. if u had allot of servers.. =) thermal pads just aren't as good.. maybe if someone figured out how to make a silver.. or copper thermal pad.. ppl might use it more.. u know.. with metal filing mixed in.. hey its just an idea =)

as for the 2400+ its a 2 gig as far as I know
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Old January 1st, 2003, 07:11 PM     #5 (permalink)
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Daft is right, the 2200 is 1.80Ghz, 2400 is 2Ghz, the change from the usual 66Mhz/100 PR was done to correct the Comparison to the P4, there is an article on it on Anandtech and also Toms makes a slight mention of it in the 2600+ article.
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Old January 1st, 2003, 07:12 PM     #6 (permalink)
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Remember that they are talking about production machines (ie Dell, Gateway, etc.) that will not be torn down on a regular basis and in use 24/7 most times. Thermal paste tends to dry out and lose it's thermal properties over time and is less suitable in those conditions.
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Old January 1st, 2003, 07:18 PM     #7 (permalink)
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If you keep your computer on all the time, thermal paste is good? Otherwise it will dry out?
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Old January 1st, 2003, 08:18 PM     #8 (permalink)
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I'm sure there are some that turn theirs off... but mine stays on 24/7 at full load i might add
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Old January 1st, 2003, 08:30 PM     #9 (permalink)
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My favorite HSF assembly - Taisol with a copper insert, triple protrusion clasps and a (appx'ly 4500 rpm) Sunon fan mounted on it always came with the pinkish tinted thermal pads (at least from www.KDComputers.com). I always used those pads, and as I've mentioned at least a dozen times (well, maybe eleven ..) on this forum they work as good as any thermal grease (IMO) the first time around. After many months of use, whenever I've removed the HSF to change CPUs (for example), I have had to scrape what was left of the pad off and then apply grease. I found that the CPU die and heatsink were not compressed close enough together or as tightly if I tried to reuse the thermal pad "remnants."

I have not read the article referenced in the first post in this thread, but my experience has demonstrated (to me) that thermal pads do great until and unless one takes the HSF off at some point. This "burning in" of the thermal pad by the "CPU-generated-heat" melts the pad substance a bit, resulting in a very nice interface between the two surfaces (CPU die and heatsink) resulting, of course, in very good heat dissipation.

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Old January 1st, 2003, 10:31 PM     #10 (permalink)
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You can believe what you want brangwen, but Artic Silver 3 for an example will far outperform any thermal pads that come stuck on heatsinks.

And the reason you get poor performance when you go from the pad to grease is simple: When the wax in a thermal pad melts from the heat of the processor, it fills the microscopic indentations and holes etc in the surface of the metal. This is how they work, and then when you take off the heatsink and attempt to scrape it off, what happens is that a fair bit of wax actually stays in the metal, severely hindering the performance of a good thermal compound like artic silver. This is why you should never use them in the first place.

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