New Athlon XP 2000+ running at 60 degrees... is it normal? - Tech Support Forums

mAdMaLuDaWg · January 25th, 2003, 04:02 AM

I purchased a new Athlon XP 2000 + recently. What surprised me was that the temperature shows that it is operating at 60 degrees celsisus. I previously had an athlon 1700+ and it never went above 50 degrees... is there something wrong with my system?
Tks.

Bob The Great · January 25th, 2003, 04:11 AM

yes, thats 140F and you should be around 120 or so under full load. I had my XP 1800+ at 2000+ and it was about 120 under full load. Probably either your heatsink needs upgrading or you need to recoat yourself with some silicon greese (either to thick or to thin first coat, just remove it and reapply)

January 25th, 2003, 08:52 AM

That's a little high, IMO. What mobo? HSF?

My 1700+ won't go over 30 C under full load. My 2000+ stays under 50 C. That's with a Volcano 7 and an Antec Reference, respectively. The 1700+ with Arctic Silver 1 and the 2000+ with Arctic Silver 3.

mAdMaLuDaWg · January 25th, 2003, 11:53 AM

Mobo is a M7VIB. I applied artic silver 3 and the CPU fan came with the processor (a retail packed AMD XP 2000+). The hardware monitor for windows also says that my BATT voltage is going above the limits (limit is 3.30 and voltage goes to 3.32).

iroc-z · January 25th, 2003, 02:34 PM

Sounds like the exact same problem that I'm having. I can't help you because I haven't found a solution for my problem yet, but I can link you to some of my posts on the topic...

1. Athlon XP Running Way Too Hot...

2. Do these CPU settings look correct?

January 25th, 2003, 04:09 PM

You could try lowering the cpu core voltage a little bit. Your 2000+ might be an older core revision. That would couse it to naturally run hotter. You might want to look at a big HSF.

iroc-z · January 25th, 2003, 10:44 PM

mAdMaLuDaWg,

I've done some reasearch and I think that prexaspes is right on the money. Turns out that AMD has three versions of their Athlon series of chips. For an Athlon XP 2000+, you can have either of two revisions: Palomino (or "Model 6"--the earlier version) or Thoroughbred (or "Model 8"--the latest version). There are a few minor differences between the two--none of which directly affect performance for a given speed. However, the most major difference between the two is that Palomino used a .18 micron manufacturing process and the Thoroughbred uses a .13 micron manufacturing process. Among other things, the smaller circuit allows for less electrical resistance, which in turn means it uses less current, which ultimately means that the newer version will run cooler than it's .18 micron predecessor.

Based on your situation (and my experience today), I can almost guarantee that you've got a Palomino core. One easy way of checking to make sure is to see if you have a green chip (Palomino) or a brown chip (Thoroughbred). Another way to check would be to download the CPUID program from AMD.

As far as what, if anything, you should do about the heat... My only guess is that AMD knew that their chips on the older Palomino core would eventually approach a speed where heat would become an issue. Seeing as how the 2000+ chip is one of the fastest/last chips in that line, it would naturally be hotter (speed=more current=more heat). That would explain why they have moved to the newer manufacturing process. However, I would assume that AMD Engineering must have judged that you should safely be able to run a chip at those higher temperatures--else they would not have released chips that fast on their older platform. So, I think you're probably okay, just as long as you have a "good" heatsink and fan.

Personally, I did not like my chip to run at such high temperatures because the top of my case literally got hot. So after I researched the subject, I decided to exchange my 2000+ Palomino chip for a 2100+ Thoroughbred chip tonight. This is the first time it's been booted up, and it seems to have maxed out at 41 C -- much improved from the 56 C of my old chip.

I think this issue of different cores would explain why a lot of people are having different issues with these chips--looking through the boards, I saw plenty of people saying that they were running at 55 C and were concerned, and I saw just as many people saying that theirs were running at 40 C and couldn't understand why someone elses would be hotter.

Anyway, I hope that sheds some light on the subject...

January 26th, 2003, 12:04 PM

I have dual Palomino MPs that run well below the temperatures of my Palomino XPs. I think there's a little more to the MP processors than connected bridges. AMD doesn't seem to be the type of company that'll charge more money for nothing.

My 1700+ runs at 29C, too. Thoroughbred technology rocks.

samwichse · January 26th, 2003, 01:53 PM

I'd suspect bad case ventilation...

I've got four case fans, and I run a 1700+ overclocked to 2000+, and the temp stays at 40C at 100% load (eccp).

But, if I turn off two of the fans (1 in and 1 out) the temperature climbs to 45C. If I turn off the remaining two, the system becomes unstable and freezes after about 20-30 minutes.

mAdMaLuDaWg · January 26th, 2003, 02:05 PM

Tks iron-cz and others.
Well, for one its not bad case ventilation coz I was running an Athlon XP 1700+ at 45 degrees C in the same case. The core is a Palomino core. I'm going to try and email AMD and see if I could get some info on the topic... I'll post back if/when I get any more info.
Tks again!