pentium 4 processor temperature?

[legendps]

What is a desired pentium 4 processor temperature?

thanks

[nurdonsite2]

well...........i would say about 35 degrees when idling and about 45 at full load.

[legendps]

yikes....

my machine is running at 140+ F...

just put it together last night

thermaltake III case with 7 fans
p4 2.4 w vantec FHS
antec 350w ps
gigabyte mb
2 - 512mb pc2700 ddr333
52x burner

hmmmmmmmmm

[Sweeper]

Maximum P4 temp is 70C. 35-45c is where you would like to be. Might want to check and see if you don't have a gap between your HSF and CPU.

[MikQuattro]

Most of the heat problems I've seen with P4's have been related to case airflow. Are you sure you've got good airflow thru your case? I realize you've got a lot of fans, but that doesn't mean you've got good airflow. Also, what is your v-core set at and are you using a thermal pad or compound?

[legendps]

thanks for the help guys.....

so 70c is about 150f....

no gap in between HSF and CPU....

the case has 2 intake in front and 2 outtake in back, both are working so I am guessing airflow is good.. if i recall correctly from last night, my system temp was in the 70s f...

not sure on v-core and I am using compound...

[DPA]

perhaps you have your ram set to that generic "turbo" mode. For almost no boost in performance, you get a huge boost in heat to your CPU and RAM. Check that out in the bios, and yes, make sure your heatsink is seated correctly (i.e. not on backwards) because that is extremely hot for a P4, but sounds about right for an incorrectly cooled athlon mine wants to be renamed a firebird.

[MikQuattro]

Originally posted by legendps
thanks for the help guys.....

so 70c is about 150f....

no gap in between HSF and CPU....

the case has 2 intake in front and 2 outtake in back, both are working so I am guessing airflow is good.. if i recall correctly from last night, my system temp was in the 70s f...

not sure on v-core and I am using compound...

How much compound? Should be as thin as possible.

[thekingofpain]

My P4 2.4b with a 600+mhz oc @ 1.85 vcore runs below 50c at all times (Aeroflo hs/f with AS) thats with 3 of the 4 -92mm casefans turned OFF---where are you getting your temps from?

[MikQuattro]

Actually, that's a good question thekingofpain...it'd be worth verifying with different sofware also.

[legendps]

I will check the "turbo" mode when I get home, but I do remember seeing some setting in the bios set for "performance".....

I will also make sure the heatsink is in properly (which I believe it is)...

I put about a dimes worth of compound on originally, then when heatsink was put on, it thinned it out wider....

I am getting the CPU temp from the thermometer my case comes with.. here is a link: http://thermaltake.com/products/xaser3/v2000a.htm ... their is a thin wire that you put between the CPU and heatsink, which is what I did

I am getting system temp from bios.....

thanks again, and in advance, you guys are great

[EndobioticChaos]

their is a thin wire that you put between the CPU and heatsink, which is what I did

OMG! Please tell me you're joking. You really stuck a wire between the CPU and the heatsink?!! If that's true, that's definitely what's causing your problem. You can do that with AMD CPUs, because they don't have the shield covering the whole chip, so you can slide it in next to the die, as only the die makes contact with the heatsink. But you CAN'T do that with a P4.

Also, if that's the case I'm guessing it's only the CPU's thermal protection that has kept it alive, and it's probably throttled down.

[MikQuattro]

EndobioticChaos is right, mate...you can't do stuff like that with P4's...also, a dime's worth of compound is too much, all you need to do is put enough on there to fill the gaps. Check out this site for directions on applying it, if you follow that to the letter and put a paper-thin layer on, you'll be set. hth...

[legendps]

EndobioticChaos, no I am not joking, but I am feeling like a major idiot. I did find it strange that when I was looking for instructions on how to install the wire that all i could find were pics of AMD processors... sigh...

So where should I put that wire?

MikQuattro, thanks for the link. I will take a little off and make sure its spread correctly.

When I get home I will be removing the wire and making sure the compound has been done right. Just not sure where i put the wire for the temp display now..

you guys are such a big help, and I truely appreciate it

[Emc2]

hmmm....I would just keep the wire out in the case so you'll get a decent ambient temp reading...

I don't know what motherboard you're using, but the motherboards normally have a temp. sensor within in the processor, underneath the processor. It's not the most accurate thing, but it's something...

Yes, the pentium4 thermal protection is almost a GodSend.

[legendps]

The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-8SQ800....

http://www.giga-byte.com/products/8sq800.htm

and yes, looks like thermal protection might have saved me

[MikQuattro]

legendps, no worries...I've done some silly stuff also, like this one time....oh, forget it, too embarassing....

You're gonna have to ditch the wire, at least for the cpu. P4's have a thermistor built onto the die, no need for wires and such.

Follow those instructions to the letter and you'll be rockin...

Check this link out for a bunch of awesome utilities and such....among them are monitoring programs which you can check your temps thru...hth!

[Sweeper]

The temp sensor should be mounted under the heatsink as close to the CPU die as possible but NOT on the CPU itself. I used the Tt Spark 7 sensor to control the speed of my fan for awhile, but I placed it as close to the CPU as possible attached to the Heatsink.

Anyway, your temps should drop big time.

[EndobioticChaos]

Probably the best thing you'll be able to do with the wire to measure CPU temps is to figure some way to get it inside the socket itself, underneath the CPU. Believe it or not, there's ways to thread the wire between the pins of the socket (between the plastic and the motherboard itself). If that doesn't make any sense, I'd say just forget about it, and go with the on-die temp readings.

Edit: Oh, and I really didn't mean to make you feel like an idiot. We all make mistakes. I've done far more idiotic things than what you did.

[thekingofpain]

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their is a thin wire that you put between the CPU and heatsink, which is what I did
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Ahah!---I knew something sounded "funny"---
Glad all is OK...