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    Question Morgan Core Duron 1100 Compatability

     
    I have recently purchased a Duron 1.1 GHz (apparently Morgan) CPU. I have found that it apparently does not work with my DFI motherboards: AK74EC and AK75EC. The only other board I have to try it on is an MSI K7T, but it only supports up to the 950 Duron. (It also supports up to the 1.4GHz Athlon...) Anyone know what boards work best with these oddball hummers?

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    What will help you is by going to amd website and look at motherboard compatabilities with that cpu. There are numerous motherboards that will support palominos (that's what your cpu is.) The 950 duron and the 1.4 are t-birds. Duron morgans are great performers. I had a 1gig duron and later upgraded to xp 1700 palos. You might want to get a mobo that will accept xp palos for later upgrade. They're getting cheap.

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    Anyone know what boards work best with these oddball hummers?
    Any of the current production XP cpu mobos will work with the Morgan core Durons and are backward compatable to the older Spitfire core Durons. These are not "oddball" Duron's, just the newer core cpus.
    You should look at your boards website to see what cpu's are supported by your mobo, this will save some grief when you upgrade.
    The Palomino cores are the XPs that are supported by newer boards, some of the older boards support these but not the newer Tbred cores.

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    palominos (that's what your cpu is.) The 950 duron and the 1.4 are t-birds.
    What's this guy smoking?
    The Durons are either Spitfire (<1ghz) or Morgan (>=1ghz) These are different from the Pally or Tird because of the cache and number of pipelines. The Morgan Durons do SSE, but that doesn't make them Katmais does it?
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    What are the chipsets on the boards you have? It sounds as though they have early VIA chipsets: KT133A? I believe that you may be able run a Duron Morgan with BIOS update. If you can't find a BIOS update for your board, it means that your chipset is too early and not upgradeable to a Morgan with 3DNOW+ and intel SSE instructions. There are some VIA chipsets like that. They were made for the first Spitfires and original Athlon CPUs. With the chipsets that are able to run the new chips, the companies almost always publish a new BIOS for the board.

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    Go to your motherboards sites and see if you can simply do a bios flash to use the newer durons.

    I bought some abit kg7's and all they needed was a bios flash.

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    Thanks for all the tips, guys. I was able to flash the bios on my DFI AK-74 EC and it accepted it. Then I find out that the new MSI board is junk - I tried multiple CPU's, and it has a voice message that says the CPU is damaged or installed wrong, and I took them out of known good systems!!! DOH!!!!!!

    Thanks again!!!

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    Originally posted by nukes

    What's this guy smoking?
    The Durons are either Spitfire (<1ghz) or Morgan (>=1ghz) These are different from the Pally or Tird because of the cache and number of pipelines. The Morgan Durons do SSE, but that doesn't make them Katmais does it?
    Sorry nukes, morgans ARE palomino cores. Spitfires were t-bird cores. They were budget versions of their big brothers. What makes palominos better than t-birds is their exclusive caches. T-birds have inclusive caches meaning that the L1 cache are mirrored in L2 cache. Palominos don't.

    FYI-I smoke kite tobacco.

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    EDIT: What have YOU been smoking?
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    They are four (4) different cores.
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    www.geek.com/procspec/procspec.htm

    See for yourself.

    \o/ Billy

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    wju425 is right. I also found this info on AMD's site. Turns out the problem was the "new" mobo... The CPU works just fine on my DFI AK 74EC...

    Thx guys!!!


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    Glad to hear it. I bet you liked that cpu. I was happy with my 1gig duron til I went got an xp1700 palo. the xp was definetly faster but the duron wasn't a slouch compared to it.

    \o/ Billy

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