Can I use my Thoroughbred on an A7V133? - Tech Support Forums

Ruahrc · November 13th, 2003, 08:18 PM

Hello- I just ordered a new CPU (AMD XP 2100+) the other day and it came in the mail just now. Upon opening the retail box I see this yellow slip of paper stating that I have bought a Thoroughbred (Model 8) CPU. I forgot to check when I ordered my CPU- but ASUS' website claims that the A7V133 will only go up to a 2100+ Model 6 CPU.

So far the only difference that I can see is the fact that the Thoroughbred uses .13 micron transistors and that it uses a lower core voltage than the Palmino. My question is- can I still use this CPU or do I have to return it and get a Model 6?

I have the latest BIOS (flashed it yesterday) it's version 1009.

Ruahrc

Omardeth · November 13th, 2003, 08:58 PM

i am not sure if you can or not . but you might have to flash the bios . so go check the asus web site first .

wju425 · November 13th, 2003, 09:11 PM

Look at your mobo and see if you got a dot after the rev no. For example mine's a a7v133c rev 1.05. (notice the dot after). Mine says the same thing about up to 2100 model 6. Right now I'm running an xp1700 tbred A at 12.5 x 133 (2000+). I sold my old 1700 palo to a friend with a7v133 (no dot) and it's running. Right now you have the right bios but whether it'll run the tbred is a big question. Try it. It'll run on it but it may become unstable but only if you don't have the dot.

\o/ Billy

EDIT: www.a7vtroubleshooting.com is the site to go to if you want to learn more about your mobo.

Ruahrc · November 14th, 2003, 02:35 AM

Thanks for the ip wju425- I tried running the CPU before I checked back here- and came up with what you said. It posted the first time I tried the 2100+ but it was reading as an Athlon XP 1400MHz and was running at 1250MHz. So I tried flipping the FSB from 100 to 133 and bam- no POST. The only thing I could do to get it to post again was to remove the CMOS battery and let it sit for a couple minutes. It would post at 1250 (100MHzx12.5) but would endlessly reboot when trying to load windows. It would refuse to post at 133MHz FSB.

I looked on my mobo and see that I have the PCB rev. 1.05 (no dot) so I guess I can't run this Tbred. Too bad. I guess I will try and see if newegg will take it back? I just got it today in the mail- I heard they have like a 7 day satifaction guarantee?

Also- where do I buy a Palmino core Tbred? I'm assuming since all they changed was the fab size- the performances between the two are the same?

Ruahrc

PS if anyone out there who reads this is interested in perhaps swapping their Palmino 2100+ for my Tbred.... PM me?

(edit) Nice link- on that site though they state that you need 1.05. to run even a Palmino chip? But I guess it must be a typo since yours is running one ok, and ASUS' site lists the XP2100+ model 6 as being supported with 1.05

wju425 · November 14th, 2003, 09:35 AM

Sorry that it wouldn't work. I'm sure newegg will let you return the tbred especially if you explain that you misunderstood about the core. If your tbred has a stepping code like AxxxB or JxxxB (look on the cpu where the black label is) you have a tbred "B" core which is very overclockable and I would keep it and get another mobo to o/c that cpu. I have tbred "A" which is not quite overclockable as B but then I'm going as fast as my mobo can go. I think you've hit the limit on your mobo as that cpu calls for 13x but you got 12.5x.

\o/ Billy