Thread: No more passwords for me.
December 2nd, 2004, 10:03 PM #1
No more passwords for me.
I'm amazed and a bit peeved that this hasn't been made more widely known by Microsoft. I just learned, from this EXCELLENT article, that you can use a simple passphrase instead of a password for all newer (Windows 2000 and up) MS operating systems. And any phrase longer than 10 characters is virtually impossible to crack. You can use spaces and capitalization and punctuation, just as you normally would. Phrases like "I love TIMO!" are almost impossible to crack. Who knew?
I just changed my password to a dirt simple, easy to type passphrase. I may institute this as a policy at my office.
Last edited by M_Six; December 2nd, 2004 at 10:06 PM.You can't fix stupidity.
December 2nd, 2004, 10:12 PM #2
I'm changing my passwords to "I'm changing my passwords."
Cool article.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
December 3rd, 2004, 12:54 AM #3
Ok, another take on this. Three articles that attempt to quantify the benefits (or lack thereof) of passphrases.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...mt/sm1204.mspxYou can't fix stupidity.
December 3rd, 2004, 11:09 AM #4
I've been using passphrases for about 6 months now, I usually key them to the site that they're for and something personal.
Much easier to rememberWhat did a tornado sound like before freight trains were invented?
December 3rd, 2004, 11:31 AM #5
I have long used two short, unrelated words separated with a random, non-alphabetical character (like AOL uses with their free offers - e.g. tinker!drake). That method has long been known to be one of the most difficult to crack.
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December 3rd, 2004, 11:37 AM #6
I always use the same password, seoifjwq35928345-293#@$GWERG$@32r30irqw983r243t34t4ttH^*%%#RHGW@43t 2309gfwjesakemw0439t34t3%Y#%YWERGW, or something like that.
December 3rd, 2004, 12:25 PM #7
Be careful about using passphrases if you're still logging into an NT 4.0 domain. NT 4.0 doesn't like passphrases and you may find yourself getting locked out of your account.You can't fix stupidity.
December 3rd, 2004, 12:34 PM #8
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December 5th, 2004, 11:32 PM #9
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Can you crack xp if you don't have a cd rom. isn't there a generic passord that microsoft can use?
December 5th, 2004, 11:59 PM #10Originally Posted by bjkp
This thread topic is no where near the question you ask... and TIMO does not support or condone cracking of any software. You may want to re-think your post.
jmichna"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; It's just that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
December 6th, 2004, 12:01 AM #11
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i think you have got the wrong idea!
December 6th, 2004, 12:16 AM #12
Hes talking about an old rumor about microsoft using a generic code to enter XP and examine everthing on your system.By the way not true.
December 6th, 2004, 12:17 AM #13
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i think he's just saying that no matter how secure your password is, there are easy ways around it. I forget where i read it but somewhere i read that you could hack xp with an emergency startup disk that supports ntfs or a windows 98 boot disk if your drive is fat 32. scares the crap outa me. lol. oh well...scary stuff. I wish i knew the crack though..i work in a school and the kids love to password protect the accounts, and the administrator accounts never stay unopened. we have one password for the admin account across the school and I guess some of the kids know it. It only lets them onto admin on the computer, they are still user on the network, thank god. But they get in and change the pw, and it's not practical for us to change the pw cus we can't change it on all the computers, nor can we remember what computers have been changed and what haven't. damned if you do and damned if you don't. oh well..they're only like 333 mhz...i just hafta reformat a lot. lol. If someone knew of a program to get through passwords though I'd greatly appreciate it. If you feel that you don't believe me...then please by all means just don't give me the information. It's just a request. If you don't want everyone to find out but you don't mind telling me (because of circumstances) please pm me. sorry if i upset some ppl by asking, but it'd make my life much easier)
December 6th, 2004, 01:59 AM #14
Instead of reformatting a lot, why not get the school to pony up for a copy of Norton Ghost and make images of clean installs on CD. Then when the wanna be script kiddies mess with the computer settings you just pop in the ghost image CD and reload the system. It would save a lot of time and headaches, especially if they're all identical systems.What did a tornado sound like before freight trains were invented?
December 6th, 2004, 02:32 AM #15
i've been using my password for so long at places like this that it's become a passphrase for me...maybe it's time to change...
December 6th, 2004, 10:16 AM #16
There are tools that will let you create a boot CD with a Unix-derived OS, from there you can reset W2K and XP adminstrator passwords. I've used them myself... I'll try to find the references and post back."The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; It's just that they know so much that isn't so." -- Ronald Reagan
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