Complicated question - Master/slave drives

Xyn · January 7th, 2007, 01:33 PM

Alright, this is going to be alot, so please bear with me. I have an IDE Asus mobo, but look at the time i bought my new sata hard drive(Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS). I bought it as a slave drive, keeping my one now as my boot drive, or so i intended. I then bought an adapter to turn my ide into the needed port(ROSEWILL SATA 2 IDE BRIDGE RC-203) which works just fine. But here is the actual problem, when i have all the things plugged in, instead of going to the drive i have set up in the jumpers as master, it goes to my barracuda as my boot drive, which is set up with its jumper taken out. How do i make the right drive be used to boot?

If you could make any sense of what i wrote, or the problem, i would greatly appreciate any help. Thanks in advance.

Keymaker · January 7th, 2007, 01:38 PM

I believe that when you pull all the jumpers out, it makes the hard drive into a stand along storage device.

Try master and slave configs.

Your Barracuda is primary boot device?

Also make sure the BIOS is set to boot from the drive you intend on booting from. You say that the mother board doesn't support SATA its just "IDE" PATA capable?

Cmptr-Gy-Dv · January 7th, 2007, 01:43 PM

so there is a jumper on the sata board to make the sata drive master or slave?

Keymaker · January 7th, 2007, 01:50 PM

BTW, SATA drives don't have master or slave jumpers. They're for speed!

May want to replace that jumper from the barracuda.

Is this what you own?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812206001

Put the jumper back in!

Cmptr-Gy-Dv · January 7th, 2007, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keymaker

BTW, SATA drives don't have master or slave jumpers. They're for speed!

May want to replace that jumper from the barracuda.

Is this what you own?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812206001

Put the jumper back in!

I think he's saying that adaptor has a jumper on it, not sure though,

zepper · January 7th, 2007, 02:19 PM

You didn't mention what the make and model of your old HDD is? IAC, I'd suggest putting one HDD as master on each IDE channel (requires two, 80-wire IDE cables). Make sure your new SATA HDD is jumpered to SATA 150 instead of SATA 300. If your old HDD is a WD, they have two settings for master (about the only ones that do that - has caused mucho hair pulling). Usually no jumpers will make it Master with NO slave on the cable and a jumper on the Master pins will make it Master WITH slave on the same cable.

I'm not sure what I'd to with your optical drive. What make and model is that? If it is capable of ATA-66 or higher, make sure it is jumpered to the highest interface speed possible (some have a speed jumper, some don't) and jumper the drive select jumper to Slave. Then I'd put it on the cable opposite from the HDD it will send data to and receive data from most often. If it can't do at least ATA66, then I'd be an advocate of getting a cheap separate controller for it as it will likely slow down the HDD that it's on the same cable with. OTOH, you could get a fast controller and put your HDDs on it and relegate your CD/DVD drive to one of the mobo channels (you can disable the IDE channel you don't use in the BIOS to free up resources). If you decide to get an add-on controller, I recommend a SiliconImage based Syba (Newegg et al. carry them) as they are inexpensive and quite flexible.

.bh.

Keymaker · January 7th, 2007, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmptr-Gy-Dv

I think he's saying that adaptor has a jumper on it, not sure though,

That's what I was thinking after I found the bridge on newegg.

Xyn · January 7th, 2007, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keymaker

I believe that when you pull all the jumpers out, it makes the hard drive into a stand along storage device.

Try master and slave configs.

Your Barracuda is primary boot device?

Also make sure the BIOS is set to boot from the drive you intend on booting from. You say that the mother board doesn't support SATA its just "IDE" PATA capable?

No, i want the barracuda as a internal storage hard drive, and my mobo does support sata through the adapter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cmptr-Gy-Dv

so there is a jumper on the sata board to make the sata drive master or slave?

Keymaker · January 7th, 2007, 04:41 PM

It seems I've been referencing this link more than I should.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

A SATA drives jumper's are for the SATA-1 or 2 speed (150-300)

Your mother board hasn't any SATA connectors? It's why you bough the bridge, Right? Your only going to have two drives capable of being on the parallel cable!

You have two parallel ribbon cables, right?

One cable for hard drives and the other cable for CD drives. Two separate cables!

Attach the bridge to the hard drive cable connector 1. Attach the primary boot hard drive to connector 0.

I believe your SATA drive's jumper should be set to the 150 setting and the bridge should be set to slave!

I believe I have this right.

The jumper on the bridge I believe is what I arrowed in the pic.

BTW, You did connect power to the bridge? Just making sure, you did say it all works, but not in the order you want.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT_Atta..._device_speeds

zepper · January 7th, 2007, 11:08 PM

A hard disk controller (when it is IDE, it should properly be called an adapter) adds more HDD channels (connectors) to your system - they usually plug into a PCI card slot. Rosewill also sells them (one just like the Syba I mentioned earlier and which is probably just as good). They also have one that can add two SATA channels plus one IDE (PATA) channel or you can get just SATA or just PATA. Some also have RAID capability that you can usually just ignore if you don't need it. They often come with enough drive cables for the number of connectors on them, but sometimes you have to buy extras if you need to use all the channels (the Syba PATA adapter has two channels (to support up to 4 more drives) but comes with only one cable for up to two HDDs). The most common types of HDD adapters for PCs today are IDE (PATA or SATA) and SCSI (pronounced Scuzzy)

As your mobo has no SATA channels, then I wouldn't get a SATA controller even though logic seems to point in that direction as SATA controllers added to non-SATA mobos can often be problematic (ref. the comments in Newegg's buyer reviews). Best for adding more SATA channels to a SATA mobo.

Keymaker seems to have your situation nailed down tight in the message above this one. But a reread of my earlier message wouldn't hurt if you are not averse to adding another adapter. The best opportunity for optimum performance exists when each drive has its own channel (one drive per cable). But that tends to create a rat's nest of cables - everything in PCs seems to be a trade-off...

.bh.