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    Need files from drive.

     
    Hi
    Story so far...

    Got a friends old PC as they were having problems with it.
    Used CCCleaner, Malwarebytes and Spybot on it.
    Malwarebytes came back with 160 nasties on it.
    Cleaned the drive up and then tried to re-boot. It did not boot.
    Windows then scanned the drive and informed me it was fixing problems. This took just over 6 hours for a 20 gig drive.
    I am resigned to the fact that i "buggered the drive".

    Friend has now got a lap top and said not too concerned about PC, however they have asked if i can get some family photos from it.
    Have got it slaved in my main rig via IDE ribbon cable but cannot access the drive. It shows up in BIOS and in My Computer, but when i click to access it there is a message about needing to format the drive before i can use it. I do not want to do this as i would like to try and retrieve what is on there.
    I have also tried running Ubuntu from disc to see if i can access it through there but no joy. Ubuntu reports a disc that is about to fail.

    I have not tried the freezer thing yet as i want to see if anyone has any ideas what to do.

    Drive is a 20 Gig Maxtor.

    Thanks

    Edit: After i had cleaned the drive i was able to access it, but the folder i want to get to was password protected. That is why i have tried it with Ubuntu, to bypass the windows password.
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    I don't think you buggered the drive. Someone already did that for you.

    Tell your "friends" they need (1) a new drive and (2) a better backup plan.

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    bump.

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    In theory - their drive should be jumpered SLAVE and yours MASTER....If that doesn't work - set them both to CS.
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    ^^ or, if you've got multiple IDE slots on your MoBo, try using their disk on the alternative slot...








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    Have got the faulty drive as a master on the IDE slot.
    My hard drives are master and slave via SATA.
    It shows up ok in BIOS and my computer, i just cannot access it.

    How long do i leave the drive in the freezer if i go down that route?
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    Bump ^^^^^Anyone know the answer to the freezer question?

    Do i leave it in long enough so that i can snap it in half, or just enough to turn "slightly cold"?

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    The freezer trick won't help this:

    Edit: After i had cleaned the drive i was able to access it, but the folder i want to get to was password protected. That is why i have tried it with Ubuntu, to bypass the windows password.
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    The freezer thing is for mechanical problems, and works very rairly, for short periods.
    But if you must try, put it in a sealed plastic bag and freeze it overnight.
    It doesn't sound mechanical to me either.

    By the way,SATA does not have a slave and master.

    Edit;
    Freezing can kill the drive if it isn't dead already.

    Moisture and electronics don't mix..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve R Jones View Post
    The freezer trick won't help this:

    But now i cannot even access the drive

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    How valuable is the information?
    There are companies that can almost always recover info, for an extremely high price.

    They will go as far as rebuilding the drive, replacing all the bad parts.

    I continue to be flabbergasted, with people that don't backup.
    To me, backup is as important as a motherboard, or a CPU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroyal View Post
    By the way,SATA does not have a slave and master.

    Well it shows up as master and slave at the post screen

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    Possible, but there is still no master and slave, in the way IDE drive have.

    My BIOS doesn't even show the SATA drives.
    It even calls them SCSIs in the boot order, and they are not SCSIs.
    But the SATA on my board is treated like an expansion card, it may be different on newer boards.

    It is probably their way of designating the boot drive, in the boot order.
    Edit;
    It is probably a misnomer like calling a Cable Gateway a Cable Modem.
    Only dial up uses a modem.
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    May need to initialize the drive, though I doubt it. Right click My Comp / Manage / storage / Disk Management.

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    Have you tried not use the jumper at all? Just leave all pins open?

    There may be another setting in BIOS. Sometimes you will need to disable the drive in the list of devices but leave it enabled. If that makes any sense to you. I had to do this once so that Window would not see the dive, but I could access it.... if that makes any sense. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by stroyal View Post


    Possible, but there is still no master and slave, in the way IDE drive have.

    My BIOS doesn't even show the SATA drives.
    It even calls them SCSIs in the boot order, and they are not SCSIs.
    But the SATA on my board is treated like an expansion card, it may be different on newer boards.

    It is probably their way of designating the boot drive, in the boot order.
    Edit;
    It is probably a misnomer like calling a Cable Gateway a Cable Modem.
    Only dial up uses a modem.
    ...and to throw a wrench in the gears. SATA is IDE and so is PATA.

    Maybe you need a firmware update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by railfrog View Post

    Edit: After i had cleaned the drive i was able to access it, but the folder i want to get to was password protected. That is why i have tried it with Ubuntu, to bypass the windows password.

    How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP

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    Thanks all

    Will try it again on the weekend.

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