rebuilding old 166 -- CD's won't work

[milehigh]

I'm rebuilding with assorted parts an old Packard Bell M415 system to send to my father-in-law [because least $ possible]. Specs as follows:

mainboard -- ? [original]
CPU -- Intel P166MMX [original]
BIOS -- Award 1.14 [original]
RAM -- 64 DIMM
OS -- 95 [original]
Video -- on board ? [original]
Controller -- standard IDE/ESDI hard disk controller
CDRW to install -- Iomega CDRW 8x-4x-32x and/or Matsushita CR563B (latter from anther PBell system]

Finally got the thing booted, but cannot get either the CDR or CDRW to work. I have a 95 CD and a 98SE CD, so I wanted to upgrade to 98SE; obviously that isn't gonna happen until I resolve the CD issue.

On boot, I get this message [moer or less]:
CD Device Driver Version 4.10
Matsushita-Kotobuki Elec. Ind. Ltd
Device Driver Name = MSCD0001
"Interface board or CD-ROM drive not ready"; missing file
"WINDOWS\system\UMM32\BIOS.VXD"

If I attach the Matsushita CDR to either IDE cable I get a freeze at the beginning of boot. If I take it off it goes through all the jazz listed above. When I hook up the Imoega drive, everything is fine except the CDRW doesn't work.

Anybody have any great ideas about using what I have to get this thing working?

[dunbar]

Matsushita.... Panasonic? Some early Panasonic CDROM drives were a proprietary data interface, looking like IDE, but definitely not IDE compatible. Might the drive you connected be non IDE?

[Urban_Squrill]

This is a shot in the dark. But it could be that the drives are too new and are not capatable with the "ide" like interface. See if u or anyone else has a older drive.

Just en idea.


Urban

[Wizzard~Of~Ozz]

I had an old matsushita 6x drive that needed different drivers then those loaded on the diskette, Perhaps if you check for them.

Another thing to check, make sure the CDRW is set to primary master, the CDrom is set to secondary slave.

Then try removing the CDrom (leaving only the CDRW as secondary master) and try booting using a bootdisk from www.bootdisk.com (or try yours that you have)

Personally I wouldn't bother putting a 2x CDrom in that system. (that matsushita one is.)

Come to think of it, I think Urban Squirrel is right that drive, which I had one of, uses a panasonic interface, same number of pins, but had to attach to a soundcard, I knew that model number sounded familiar.

That's why it keeps mentioning SBCD.sys everywhere I look, Don't hook it up at all, just the burner, if the burner still doesn't work, try another boot disk (I mentioned the site above) if it still doesn't work, try setting it to primary slave,

[milehigh]

might be, dunbar, 'cause there's a full set of pins on the connection where a normal IDE has a missing pin in the center of the bottom row. If so, THEN what do I do?

[Wizzard~Of~Ozz]

http://support.tulip.com/TulipExchan...f?OpenDocument

Quote:

Interface 40 pin MKE bus header (internal drive)

Yup, It's not IDE.

[bill1971]

I agree w/ these guys, mh:

Looks like you're reaching back into the land of the "proprietary" PC. Don't know about adding a CD-RW to that rig. I added one, along w/ 256MB SDRAM to a PII 300, and it was really s-l-o-w, so I can just imagine a P166. Good luck with that.

- Bill

[cowboybooter]

Is that a full set of pins on the cd / rw ?

Haven't seen that in a while,


CBB

[milehigh]

Dunno, Wiz. I downloaded CR563B drivers from driverguide.com but when I tried to load that 95 said it wasn't drivers. The old Matsushita doen't have master/slave jumpers -- just a1-2-3-4 which I found means [after looking for 'bout and hour yesterday] that you have that many drives on board ala SCSI. Tried the Iomega set as master and the Mat as "1" and "2", but no dice. Haven't tried leaving the CDRW and booting from a diskette, but will do so in a second. Also, the only reason for the Mat disk was to install the 98SE. Other than that it is spare parts trash culled from another old junky PB system!

Thanks, I'll let you know about the boot floppy try.

[crazyray]

Check here:

http://www.priorityonesupport.com/Home.asp