Apple to Nuke Unlocked "I" Phones with Next Update!  | | |
September 27th, 2007, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mrniceguy The term illigal is being used a bit loosely, you can't sell me any piece of equipment and tell me what I can and can't do with it. These people aren't renting a phone, they bought it (even those who recieved a discount, if they did that with the Iphone, they bought the phone under the condition of a 2 year contract). They OWN the phone, and fussing with your property is not illigal last I looked. Installing an illigal copy of windows is in a completely different ball park. If they were actually bricking the phones for having the mod, it would be like microsoft embedding a virus into the next update that wiped the drives of every computer that had any modification to the os (like changing what your start button says, or not having those various dialup programs that come with windows). | Not exactly, the 'buyer' signed a terms of use agreement that governs what they can and can't do with the equipment.
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September 27th, 2007, 10:53 PM
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so you're telling me that you can go out and buy a new car
Alter the fuel system to use biofuel
This will of course void the warranty on the vehicle
Then go and bitch to the car mfg'er because they wont replace your fuel pump if it breaks?
You altered a piece of equipment, kind of like being on a warranty
You agreed to use at&T and not alter the firmware by purchasing the phone.
Is it wrong that the iPhone can be locked down to one provider? Yes
is it legal? Unfortunately |
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September 27th, 2007, 10:55 PM
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Sony updates the PSP all the time so the third party hacks are disabled. Anyways, it seems to me that Apple would sell a hell of a lot more unlocked phones than locked ones.
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September 27th, 2007, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by vass0922 so you're telling me that you can go out and buy an new car
Alter the fuel system to use biofuel
This will of course void the warranty on the vehicle
Then go and bitch to the car mfg'er because they wont replace your fuel pump if it breaks?
You altered a piece of equipment, kind of like being on a warranty
You agreed to use at&T and not alter the firmware by purchasing the phone.
Is it wrong that the iPhone can be locked down to one provider? Yes
is it legal? Unfortunately | This is not what Apple is doing though. This would be like the car manufacture making a contract with a oil company and telling you that only one brand of gas can be used in "your" car. If you don't use that one brand of gas they're going to show up at your house and take the engine out of your car until you start buying their gas again.
You are right about the fact that iPhone buyers agreed to this when they bought the phone though. People should read before they agree with terms.
Good to see people are finally seeing Apple's true intentions. Funny thing is they've been pulling crap like since the mid 80s. All these Apple fanboys are just not old enough to remember those days. |
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September 28th, 2007, 10:50 AM
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An arugment could be made that the agreement was illegal. At least that's what a lawer will argue.
If he wins he'll get 10 million dollars, and you'll get a rebate for $ 5.00 toward your next phone with an iron clad agreement written by the same lawyer!
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September 28th, 2007, 11:55 AM
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I have to agree with mrniceguy. you bought the thing, its yours. do with it as you will. same with software. I know, you only actually own the rights to use it, but you still bought it. I figure, if I screw up some program, I'll either fix it, or reinstall. the companies only put in the licensing agreement to cover their own ass. The iphone is no different. Its a portable computer with integrated cell phone functions.
apple is so anal about outside software code, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the entire iphone system will spontaneously combust if you attempt to hook it up to a PC and open windows media player instead of itunes.
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September 28th, 2007, 11:57 AM
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| | MR Meek and Mild
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Originally Posted by vass0922 .
Is it wrong that the iPhone can be locked down to one provider? Yes
is it legal? Unfortunately | So it is wrong to offer a business to contract a product and get exclusive rights to sell it with his service?
Why?
i am sure AT&T payed dearly for the exclusive rights to this product. AS such Apple was payed dearly for the rights for this product. I can not see a problem with a business going into contract with another business and providing a unique product. It sounds like a great business plan.
What could possibly be wrong with that? if you cell phone provider comes up with some new technology and offers you a product available nowhere else is that not the best possible sollution.
PS is I-phone some sort of necessity that you will die with out? it is the equivelant of a toy offered by matel and only matel. it is called exclusive. |
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September 28th, 2007, 01:25 PM
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So are we gonna start complaining about OSX not running running on a pc?
Or how windows didn't run on a mac for the longest time? |
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September 28th, 2007, 04:06 PM
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my whole argument is based on them intentionally sabotaging the phones that are modified, there's no fault to them if you've modified the software and their update inadvertently doesn't mesh with your mods. |
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September 28th, 2007, 04:21 PM
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I do not know. If you accept their modification then you are still using their services. If you are using their services you are subject to their rules. If you are subject to their rules then they can destroy your device.
if they put an ipod virus out there to find and destroy ipods while you are just using them to copy from you pc then I might have a problem.
Ultimately you modify the phone to steal. the phone is a joint venture between Iphone and AT& T. you purchase the rights to use the device within certain guidelines and you are outside those parameters. Suggestion if you want to have your pirated phone work on another vendors network... I suggest you never consider updating it. |
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