Thread: Problem Configuring Computer
January 22nd, 2005, 08:07 PM #1
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Problem Configuring Computer
A while back I purchased a bunch of parts from Newegg.com to build a computer for recording music. Anyway to make a long story short the computer crapped out and after much trial and error and replacement of most of the computer I finally have most of my hardware issues sorted out. However, I'm still having trouble getting the machine to boot up properly every time and even when it does it is still not very stable and runs much slower than it should. My machine is as follows:
ASUS A7N8X motherboard
Barton 2500+ CPU
(2 sticks) 512mb 2700 GEIL RAM
40 gig Western Digital Harddrive (primary)
80 gig Western Digital Harddrive (slave)
Lite-On CD drive
Maxtor AGP dual display video card (I can't remember the specific model number off the top of my head)
In addition I have a special PCI card installed for my audio and will be installing another USB audio device as well. I'm running WinXP pro and currently the machine is not hooked up to the internet or any other network nor will it ever be.
With that said, the problem I'm having is first of all I was under the impression that my CPU freq should be set at 166mhz and that my mobo supports dual channel however, if I set the bios to 166 the computer will goto the first bootup screen and then either freeze or goto the screen where you have the option of selecting safe mode and then freeze. Same thing for 133. However if I have it set to 100 sometimes I can get it to boot up and work to some degree, but most of the time it does the same thing as the other settings or I'll get into XP and see the desktop but its frozen and I have to reboot. I have tried clearing the CMOS several times and have checked the connections several times. I'm pretty good with computers but no expert so I could be doing something wrong with the BIOS, I did try a barebones boot when I got my new ps and everything worked but once I put the machine together it stopped functioning properly. Anyway, I feel like I have hit a dead end, I have looked through these forums and others and checked out some articles on the net and I can't seem to find a solution so any help would be much appreciated.
January 23rd, 2005, 03:49 PM #2
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January 23rd, 2005, 04:13 PM #3
Two things I can think of:
Do you have the option of "load optimum settings", and "load fail safe settings"?
I would try those settings.
Next, do a memory test.
Lastly, try only one stick of ram, and check the manual to make sure you have the ram in the proper slots for DDR and single operation.
It matters on my board - a Shuttle AN35N Ultra W/512 Giel DDR ram.
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January 23rd, 2005, 04:15 PM #4
Also, if none of these things work,
Take all of your card out except the video. Boot up and see if it is ok so far. Then add your cards one by one until you find the culprit.
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January 23rd, 2005, 04:34 PM #5
I had a XP 3000+ do something like that to me once. It should run at 166, but would not boot windows unless it was at 100, not even 133 would work. The chip was also running really hot, 55C idle, at 100 mhz FSB. Ended up that the core was bad on the chip, it eventually died. I'd try a different chip if you can, if a different chip works, RMA the one you have.BSOD.........
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January 23rd, 2005, 05:35 PM #6
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Thanks for the suggestions I really appreciate it. According to my mobo manual I needed to have one of the sticks of ram in the 3rd slot and the other one could be in either 1 or 2. I had it in 2 and moved it to 1 and now the dual channel is working, why it wouldn't work in the 2nd slot I don't know. Anyway after I did that I booted the computer up and switched the chip freq to 166 and it started to load XP and then I got the blue screen that says A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer TRAP_CAUSE_UNKNOWN etc... and then at the bottom it says technical info:
***STOP: 0x00000012 (0x0000001, 0x0000000, 0x0000000, 0x0000000)
As for my CPU it's running between 88F and 100F degrees depending on how I set the chip frequency which I don't think is too hot but I could be wrong. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "load optimum settings", and "load fail safe settings", where would I see that or how would I get to that menu? Normally after I reboot once it has failed I get a screen giving me an option to pick either safe mode, safe mode w/networking, safe mode w/command prompt, last working settings or load windows normally. Other than that my only other option has been to enter the BIOS setup or update it using some program called awdflash.exe which I haven't used. I'm going to try a barebones boot again and start adding components one by one but I feel like I'm just doing the same thing over and over again and that the problem is either in some faulty component or something isn't compatible. Unfortunately I don't have a spare CPU or any other component to swap out and I already have replaced several components over the past 6 months so I'd like to think all of my hardware is working, just not quite working together yet. Anyway, thanks again for all the help, I really appreicate it.
January 23rd, 2005, 05:50 PM #7
January 23rd, 2005, 08:43 PM #8
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I'm running XP pro and using a PCI audio card made by ECHO Audio which is more of a professional soundcard than the Soundblaster stuff and also using a USB audio device made by Tascam called the US-224 which in addition to converting analog audio signals to digital and vice-versa also controls several functions of the audio programs I'm using. The us-224 has specific tested drivers for XP while the echo card has only beta drivers for XP but I have used the unit for quite sometime with great success. In August my computer died and after spending several months sorting out hardware issues via sending in several of my components for warranty replacement and purchasing a new mobo (my old one was made by Soltek) I was hoping to have a working system. Except for the motherboard and the addition of a video card (my old mobo had onboard graphics) all the components are the same and worked with my audio setup.
January 24th, 2005, 03:21 PM #9
The optimum and fail safe settings are sometimes listed at the bottom of the bios setup page as certain keys. By pressing the listed key you'll get a yes or no question to continue.
I too have had an overheated CPU and thus a bad core give me similar errors but who knows if it's the same problem as you.
Could be a re-install of xp is in order with only a minimal of hardware connected (1 HD, vid card, memory) if you can get that far. Those F temps don't look too bad.The World needs to change from revolutionary thinking to evolutionary.
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