Help me to find Equivalent Power Supply

[onder]

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JULY 27 SUMMARY

After 8 months this topic are viewed quite lots by Gateway Media Center Users. And I beleive thata was very usefull all the persons that had same problem. So we are in the same ship I was the first. So I liked to analyse this problem because Gateway lacks of support and now they stopped to produce it.

Now I am feeling very informatif about those machines. The 610's or DK Digital Center Exentia are all the same machines also I beleive there exists as under different brands. So main problem is our PSU. and the othere is LCD Monitor blinking.

For first problem you can buy a new replacement PSU as original for not to loose the originality and portability of the system from appliu@gmail.com a contact from china directly it will cost some 150$. And I advise you if you buy a new orginal PSU try to not connect everything to 610 (USB, Fireware) and also If you could try to disconnect subwoofer cable from the system BECAUSE they CONSUME A LOT POWER from system so THAT MAKES FATIGUE over PSU.I beleive with a new PSU and LESS POWER Process and Device you can use it longtime.

For Second Problem please do this steps : those are the suggestion of the people I did not tried it but they say this will resolve the LCD Monitor problem :
1 - Go to your BIOS and disable Spread Spectrum Feature ??? ( I dont know )
2 - Disconnect the Subwoofer cable from the system, I beleive this is related with something electromagnetic radiation. Because you can try it at your home that if you approach a haut-parleur to you monitor or television it will makes some noise over it. And some people says that this is because decreasing the POWER over the system so that PSU can better feed the monitor ??? ( I dont know )

And again you can always go to my personal website at http://www.ferahfeza.com/610X/ and see how to open 610 Media Center Computer.

I hope that new summary of this topic will help you all

Onder Y.

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Hi Friends,

I have a bad story. This is a Gateway Media Center P4 2.6 Mhz HT( All-in-one compact size) PC with a special small designed power supply unit. The unit is dead last week. My warrenty is expired 10 days before and the computer is discontinued this year ( although one-year old pc ). I called Gateway they offer me ONLY to service it for 450$ + Tax +Shipment to Arizona!!!!. They dont sell me separetly the unit. ( I think this is illegal what Gateway is done ) This is funny yes.. So I decided to make my self and I dissambled the PSU and read the specification.

This is :

Delta Electronics Inc.
Model : DPS-185JB-1 A Rev:00

Input : 100-127V~/4A and 200-240~/2A at 47Hz-64Hz



Ouput : +12V / 13A
-12V / 0.2A
+5V / 14A
+5VSB / 2.5A
+3.3V / 12A

185 W

The Combine Power on +3.3V & +5V Total 100W MAX.

Made in China : )

The current situation is only +5VSB output is ok so I have an ethernet card light and my usb powered harddisk is working when I push the start button of the computer. But no way about the all other things..


So Dear Friends, I dont know about power supplies I think this is a good forum to talk about I read a very deep detailed forum about PSU here.

My solution is that to utilize an external PSU !!!! ( This will be first time maybe for this technology ) because my old dead psu was a special design and no any other that I find is like it. I will put it to roof and make an extension power cable to the inside of the computer for 20 pin and p4 pin and the others.. By the way it does not have any power cable for the harddisk ( 4 pin ) I think the power to harddisk comes from the mobo.

So let me summarize I will look for a conveniant and equivalent power supply to my computer. I dont want to defect it. I dont know what I must care about the selection ?

I make a basic research all the power unit has same voltage but different Amperage and different MAX Wattage.

Also I read in a forum that if any power unit is dead in one year this points that there is a bad quality power supply or bad selection for this mobo. May be 185 Watt is not enough I dont know.

Please give me some pointer to make this selection without damaging my mobo. Or is there any repair service for the old one ( is that also a choice for me ? )

Thank you all , any help ( I needed really )

Note : at Delta Electronics internet site there is no any information about this PSU it is a special design for Gateway..

Onder Y.

[sr71000]

does it say anything about a form factor anywhere? if it does..then we can find a powersupply that'll fit in your computer and you won't have to worry about making extensions or anything crazy like that!

/edit...oh yea...what model is your computer...so we know what we're working with?

[pphalan]

Delta Electronics Inc.
Model : DPS-185JB-1 A Rev:00

http://www.delta.com.tw/product/ps/sps/sps_main.asp
Welcome to Delta Electronics, Inc. - Power Management

[sr71000]

been there...couldn't find the model number anywhere on the page. did i miss it or something cus i still don't see it there sorry if i missed it again...lol

/edit oh yea..i googled for it and couldn't find it anywhere....that makes me think it's specially made for gateway..i had this problem with a mobo once..it was specially made for hp and asus wouldn't help me out with it...would not give me ANY support for it.....i was kinda surprised.

[pphalan]

Originally Posted by sr71000

been there...couldn't find the model number anywhere on the page. did i miss it or something cus i still don't see it there sorry if i missed it again...lol

/edit oh yea..i googled for it and couldn't find it anywhere....that makes me think it's specially made for gateway..i had this problem with a mobo once..it was specially made for hp and asus wouldn't help me out with it...would not give me ANY support for it.....i was kinda surprised.

you didnt miss it, like alot of these kind of things it was a special order for gateway setups.

What you should do is go through replacements that will work with the higher ratings, your looking for physical fit. but going to a higher output rating as far as watts or amperage is concerned will not hurt you at all.

[onder]

Phalan , The owner of this situation is me : ) , lol

Please give me some more information.. for example If i selected a PSU unit with a 200 Watt and some % 20 intervally ( plus or minus ) equivalent Amperage for the outputs it is ok ?

Onder Y.

[sr71000]

yea....agreed..i just wanted to see if i could find the psu....figure out the form factor and let him know a good one to get....hey onder...any way you can measure the psu for us...tell us how long, wide and deep it is...also..if you have a digital camera..can you post a picture of what the back of it looks like...that way we know what to recommend? lol.....as far as adding extensions onto the powersupply..that's a bad idea..it can lead to bad power which can fry things on the inside, faulty connections and is a huge fire hazard...i really wouldn't recommend it unless you are highly experienced in doing this kinda stuff......so if u wanna do it that way you can..but if you wanna get one that actually fits and is the right size..just give us the info I asked and we'll help you pick out one that will fit right . later

/edit.....onder..you could get a 600 watt psu with a wicked high amperage and it would be fine....those ratings are just the max amount of power the psu can supply, however if your computer only needs a fraction of that...then the psu will only supply what the computer needs and no more! Personally I don't think you need to go crazy on a psu because of the computer...you do not have the option to upgrade like a desktop would so you don't need to go with an insane 600 watt psu because you'll never need that much...i'd recommend from a 200 to a 250 watt psu from a decent company and I think you'll be much happier..but again..without the size and stuff of your psu..we can't help you pick out the right one...sorry..cross posted w/ jp

[JPMiller]

You ONLY need to worry about physical size, (wether it will fit)
and the connector to the board...
its wattage , (as long as its as high or higher than what you haver now) doesnt have to match...
power supplies do not dictate the power usage, they only provide enough for what you computer asks for...
its wattage is its ABILITY, not what it actually puts out...
the 2 problems you may have will be the physical size... and the connector to the motherboard...
We need more info on yor system for that...
a few pictures.. some model no#s etc...

[onder]

Friends, thanks a lot , I believe i am in the right place you are very very helpfull.

Here at Seattle i am at my office I will bring you all detailed pictures and measure tomorrow morning.

Also I have an idea and one more last question about the security of the selection.

* My idea is that my power supply unit has a good metal case and inside there is a flat rectangular electronic card ( condensator, transistor you know.. ) So If I can found similar rectangular psu card that will works perfectly !!! I will write to you the shapes of the rectangle.

* My security question is that what if because of a short circuit or a tender to the electrical system with those higher valus wattage and amperage ? if the PSU has higher limits also it will has higher value for the fusing ? So in an emergency situation this will burn my mobo ?

* Is PS units are repairable ?

* is there any Japan or Germany made power supply here is USA ?

Thank you all (miller, sr71000, phalan ) dear friends you are very helpfull persons

Onder Y.

[JPMiller]

Its not worth repairing or trying to transfer components...
A. if the board fit, the whole thing would be the right size...
B. the cost of repairs (IF you could find someone willing) would ecxede the price of a new unit..
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There are no problems using a different or higher rated Power Supply...
power supplies simply supply the amount of power asked for by the components its attached to..
you cant burn out components by having too much voltage available ( at least in the way that YOU mean)
very few if any power supplies are actually made here, and any that are, are assembled from components from other countries...
When your PSU died, its possible it took out other components... thats always a risk...
so the PSU may not be the only consideration here...
you may want to inspect the motherboard and all connectors for burn marks, bulging capacitors, etc...