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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:22 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Friend screwed up his moms comp, help!

Alright, my friend is on MSN MSG right now and I'm trying to help him fix his moms computer that he kinda screwd up. I guess he was messing in BIOS and changed something he shouldn't have. So, I come for your help .

Here is the conversation, if it helps.

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kudenberg says:
hey ty i have a problom
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
yea
kudenberg says:
I need to load my moms comp with defalt seting but cant get into bios
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
what do you mean by -defalut settings-
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
like default frequency and stuff
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
and multiplyer , volage, etc?
kudenberg says:
I messed something up and now I can teven get into bios, it just freezes up
kudenberg says:
voltage I think and mutipyer
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
all i have to say is: lol
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
because I don't really know what you could do
kudenberg says:
maby I could try to flash the Bios and restart it
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
well you have to get into a flash bios screen to do it
kudenberg says:
yeah trouble
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
and you'll have to get teh motherbord number and stuff, and get default bios online on your comp
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
but that isn't the problem
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
you gotta get into the flash screen
kudenberg says:
hmmmmm
kudenberg says:
how tho
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
thats something your gonna have to figure out
kudenberg says:
I dl the manual but nothing in there helped
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
Cause I dunno...
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
so explain waht happens to me
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
like it just turns on and then does what? freezez up and you gotta restart, or what?
kudenberg says:
yeah
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
;/ man you really screwed yourself here
kudenberg says:
I can get up to the prossesor check
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
hrrm
kudenberg says:
once I got to the Viris caheck thing
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
well josh is busy and wont respond so i cant ask his advice
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
if you look in the manual
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
there might be a mobo jumper to reset bios
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
if your lucky, im not sure
kudenberg says:
Ill look hold on
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
ive never really heard of a problem like this so im just shooting ideas :/
ШДБїςГяЁдк says:
ill ask on timo.com
Alright, so that is his problem. He needs to get his CPU Multiplyer and FSB on default, his voltage on default, etc. I havn't ever really heard much about this so I was just shooting Ideas. I'll give him a link to this thread and maybe he can help you understand the problem some more. Thanks for your help guys. I think it will really be apreciated.

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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:26 PM     #2 (permalink)
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sheesh toough one i've never heard anything like it either. i think your jumper setting idea might be on the right track

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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:28 PM     #3 (permalink)
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any idea if the com makes any beebs at start up? im guessing he cant access the bios due to him being a meddling kid- scooby doo style!

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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:30 PM     #4 (permalink)
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lol scooby doo
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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:31 PM     #5 (permalink)
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If this is a desktop pc, he should be able to reset to defaults by a jumper switch on the motherboard (go to the PC or motherboard manufacturer's website support and make SURE he knows what he is doing) or by simply removing the cmos battery for about 15 minutes, then reinstall battery. Either way, he would need to reset the cmos clock after bootup.

Sounds like this is a person that needs to be very careful with his experiments. If he is on his own computer now, maybe he should give it to his Mom.
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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:31 PM     #6 (permalink)
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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:39 PM     #7 (permalink)
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If this is a desktop pc, he should be able to reset to defaults by a jumper switch on the motherboard (go to the PC or motherboard manufacturer's website support and make SURE he knows what he is doing) or by simply removing the cmos battery for about 15 minutes, then reinstall battery. Either way, he would need to reset the cmos clock after bootup.

Sounds like this is a person that needs to be very careful with his experiments. If he is on his own computer now, maybe he should give it to his Mom.
Yeah... he has also ruined a video card I sold him, his hard drive, and maybe another hard drive if I remember right, maybe not 2 HDD... but anyways, I agree. I mean no offence to my friend, but its not "cool" to screw stuff up, and it turns out quite bad, as we can see here...

He mentioned to me to take the CMOS batery out, but I told him maybe not to do it cause he probably didn't want to screw anything up worse... But I'll tell him to do that.

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...and make SURE he knows what he is doing...
Thats a hard one jk keith lol
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Old March 22nd, 2005, 11:45 PM     #8 (permalink)
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after he resets the cmos either with the jumper or by pulling the battery have him boot into the bios and load optimal setup if there is the option...if not load default setup. That'll make sure all the settings are good . Also, he may be able to speed up the clearing of the cmos by pulling the battery..starting the computer (it won't do anything...just the fans spin and stuff..and maybe it beeps at him) then shut it down, put the battery back in and start it. he better damn well hope he didn't fry the mobo, proc, or video card lmao...don't dog on him too hard..we all have to learn..but to learn on your mom's computer is just stupid (i know..i tried it ) lol...it's all part of the learning process...tell him to look around for a cheep computer..maybe even one on the side of the road that's broken...get 3 or 4 broken computers that people are throwing away and see if you can make a working computer out of the parts! that's how i learned!! (now i have like 6 old crappy computers in my basement...lol)
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after he resets the cmos either with the jumper or by pulling the battery have him boot into the bios and load optimal setup if there is the option...if not load default setup. That'll make sure all the settings are good . Also, he may be able to speed up the clearing of the cmos by pulling the battery..starting the computer (it won't do anything...just the fans spin and stuff..and maybe it beeps at him) then shut it down, put the battery back in and start it. he better damn well hope he didn't fry the mobo, proc, or video card lmao...don't dog on him too hard..we all have to learn..but to learn on your mom's computer is just stupid (i know..i tried it ) lol...it's all part of the learning process...tell him to look around for a cheep computer..maybe even one on the side of the road that's broken...get 3 or 4 broken computers that people are throwing away and see if you can make a working computer out of the parts! that's how i learned!! (now i have like 6 old crappy computers in my basement...lol)
Well I think he built his mom computer out of spare parts, but the basics is all you need for that, just plug eveything where it fits and thats it. Me and him have pretty equal computer knowledge, it seems, most times... I just don't mess aroudn with crap unless I know exactly what I'm doing...

Not to say I havn't screwed stuff up... I forgot to put my MOBO SPacers in on my first built computer... lol... good thing eveything was ok after that... But yeah... thanks for the help guys.
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Hello, this is Kudenberg, the one who meased up my mothers computer.
I am extreamly thankful to all of your help but I still am having probloms with the computer.
I think I fryed the CPU, because it wont even start now. All I hear is the fans and nothing on the screen. this is probobly do to my atemps to fix it without any knowledge on how (Stupid I know). but know Im left with a diffrent problom. I have decided to give my mother my old computer (its way faster then hers) but I now have a problom with the hard drive. it worked fine in the old computer and still works fine in my even new computer but wont work on my older one. it loads then in safe mode it says{"press escape to cancel loading a347bus.sys"} I know this is all my fault and now I need to fix it. plz help. thx.
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